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The first first-person shooter (2015)

55 points by elorant 6y ago

dang 6y ago
Discussed at the time (2015): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9585794 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9585794
blickentwapft 6y ago
Dave Lebling invented the first person shooter? The irony is beyond belief. For those who don’t know Dave was a key player in Infocom text adventures, the antithesis of graphic games.
- larsbrinkhoff 6y ago
  He didn't invent it. He enhanced an already existing game.
jansan 6y ago
I was really impressed with The Eidolon by Lucasfilm Games when it was released in 1985. Those "fractal" graphics were just so advanced at that time. Here is a gameplay video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-IrtXGcRGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-IrtXGcRGA Isn't is sad that Lucasfilm Games no longer exists?
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
  Yeah. Monkey Island 1&2, Loom, Maniac Mansion, Full Throttle, Tie Fighter... I could go on, these guys were special.
larsbrinkhoff 6y ago
The 1974 MIT version of game is now running in its original form, using a PDP-10 emulator and an Imlac emulator. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYRFDLYPeTU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYRFDLYPeTU
bane 6y ago
I know this is nitpicky, but I feel like this is the first maze game, and it's a different (related, definitely a predecessor) genre to the first-person shooter. The big distinction in my mind is that a maze game locks the player into a fixed position and view in the maze and movement is made by advancing along this grid, while an FPS allows for free roaming. Maze games, while earlier than FPSs, and definitely an influence, went an entirely different direction, and remain a parallel genre to the FPS genre (see Legend of Grimrock). I think it's as important a distinction as other first-person genres like in-the-car driving game, in-the-cockpit space shooter, and flight simulators -- which are also not in the FPS genre, but feature things like a first-person perspective. Maze games also consist of your normal first-person dungeon crawler (lots and lots of D&D type games), MIDI maze and so on. Just like the distinction we make in genres between FPSs and Third Person Shooters (Tomb Raider, etc.). There's also a Third Person maze games (Xybots). I'm not entirely sure what the first FPS was, but somebody else here mentioned the Eidolon, that might be it. It most definitely wasn't Wolfenstein 3D (id even had an earlier games: Hovertank 3D and Catacomb 3D).
xtiansimon 6y ago
The first first person shooter I encountered was this game on a Macintosh: Super Maze Wars (Macintosh game 1995) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmDeO9Tqx-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmDeO9Tqx-0

55 points by elorant 6y ago

dang 6y ago

Discussed at the time (2015): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9585794 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9585794

Dave Lebling invented the first person shooter? The irony is beyond belief. For those who don’t know Dave was a key player in Infocom text adventures, the antithesis of graphic games.

larsbrinkhoff 6y ago
He didn't invent it. He enhanced an already existing game.

jansan 6y ago

I was really impressed with The Eidolon by Lucasfilm Games when it was released in 1985. Those "fractal" graphics were just so advanced at that time. Here is a gameplay video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-IrtXGcRGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-IrtXGcRGA Isn't is sad that Lucasfilm Games no longer exists?

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
Yeah. Monkey Island 1&2, Loom, Maniac Mansion, Full Throttle, Tie Fighter... I could go on, these guys were special.

larsbrinkhoff 6y ago

The 1974 MIT version of game is now running in its original form, using a PDP-10 emulator and an Imlac emulator. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYRFDLYPeTU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYRFDLYPeTU

bane 6y ago

I know this is nitpicky, but I feel like this is the first maze game, and it's a different (related, definitely a predecessor) genre to the first-person shooter. The big distinction in my mind is that a maze game locks the player into a fixed position and view in the maze and movement is made by advancing along this grid, while an FPS allows for free roaming. Maze games, while earlier than FPSs, and definitely an influence, went an entirely different direction, and remain a parallel genre to the FPS genre (see Legend of Grimrock). I think it's as important a distinction as other first-person genres like in-the-car driving game, in-the-cockpit space shooter, and flight simulators -- which are also not in the FPS genre, but feature things like a first-person perspective. Maze games also consist of your normal first-person dungeon crawler (lots and lots of D&D type games), MIDI maze and so on. Just like the distinction we make in genres between FPSs and Third Person Shooters (Tomb Raider, etc.). There's also a Third Person maze games (Xybots). I'm not entirely sure what the first FPS was, but somebody else here mentioned the Eidolon, that might be it. It most definitely wasn't Wolfenstein 3D (id even had an earlier games: Hovertank 3D and Catacomb 3D).

xtiansimon 6y ago

The first first person shooter I encountered was this game on a Macintosh: Super Maze Wars (Macintosh game 1995) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmDeO9Tqx-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmDeO9Tqx-0