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They don't have to lie. You can have 90% of those 400k people do legit work, but still fake the landing. Maybe they built the rocket but encountered some techni

They don't have to lie. You can have 90% of those 400k people do legit work, but still fake the landing. Maybe they built the rocket but encountered some technical bottleneck and had to fake the landing. Not a skeptic myself, but the argument that 400k people needed to keep a secret is pretty weak.

jv22222 6y ago
The movie The Cube springs to mind. No one knows what anyone else is building other than a very few who put the whole dastardly thing together. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cube_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cube_(film)
avmich 6y ago
> Not a skeptic myself, but the argument that 400k people needed to keep a secret is pretty weak. That's unless you start looking closer. Those people, they aren't universally fools, they think by themselves. Maybe not all 400k, but a sizeable non-reducible chunk of them do.
publicrootkey 6y ago
If the moon landing was indeed infeasible from a technical perspective at that time, those people would know, that their designs were inadequate or flawed. The "some people might think they do legit work" argument doesn't really hold, because they would either know it was an impossible feat, or it would possible and no need to fake the landing.
jussij 6y ago
That still leaves 40,000 people who are in on that lie.
mullingitover 6y ago
Even faking the landing would require cooperation from parties with nothing to gain, since independent parties were able to bounce a laser off the mirror that they placed when they landed.
koheripbal 6y ago
The argument still holds because you'd need to keep 40K people silent - which is impossible. There are single individuals that even the President of the US cannot keep silent. A democratic country has no ability to keep monumental secrets like this.
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nojvek 6y ago
It could be a half lie too. 400k people built rocket, they saw the launch but the rocket didn’t actually make it to moon. The actual moon shots were in a studio. Half lies are the best lies because you can argue half a truth is good enough for the whole truth.

jv22222 6y ago

The movie The Cube springs to mind. No one knows what anyone else is building other than a very few who put the whole dastardly thing together. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cube_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cube_(film)

avmich 6y ago

> Not a skeptic myself, but the argument that 400k people needed to keep a secret is pretty weak. That's unless you start looking closer. Those people, they aren't universally fools, they think by themselves. Maybe not all 400k, but a sizeable non-reducible chunk of them do.

publicrootkey 6y ago

If the moon landing was indeed infeasible from a technical perspective at that time, those people would know, that their designs were inadequate or flawed. The "some people might think they do legit work" argument doesn't really hold, because they would either know it was an impossible feat, or it would possible and no need to fake the landing.

jussij 6y ago

That still leaves 40,000 people who are in on that lie.

mullingitover 6y ago

Even faking the landing would require cooperation from parties with nothing to gain, since independent parties were able to bounce a laser off the mirror that they placed when they landed.

koheripbal 6y ago

The argument still holds because you'd need to keep 40K people silent - which is impossible. There are single individuals that even the President of the US cannot keep silent. A democratic country has no ability to keep monumental secrets like this.

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nojvek 6y ago

It could be a half lie too. 400k people built rocket, they saw the launch but the rocket didn’t actually make it to moon. The actual moon shots were in a studio. Half lies are the best lies because you can argue half a truth is good enough for the whole truth.