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This is ridiculous, because what the author describes here is not 'collectivism' in the sense that free marketers are against. Nowhere in the post is there anyt
by tathougies 6y ago
This is ridiculous, because what the author describes here is not 'collectivism' in the sense that free marketers are against. Nowhere in the post is there anything about needing to get rid of private property or even to socialize ownership of goods. What is discussed is individuals collectively taking responsibility for their own lives and those of their neighbors -- as demonstrated in the highway and obstacle example. That is not an instance of 'big government collectivism'. Quite the opposite, and one not only compatible with, but encouraged by the libertarian free market capitalists you decry.
In reference to the highly authoritarian European regimes, Toqueville states that Americans are different:
> This detachment from his own fate becomes so extreme that, if his own safety or that of his children is threatened, instead of trying to ward off the danger he folds his arms and waits for the entire nation to come to his rescue.
This sounds like something a 'far-right', liberty obsessed gun afficionado may say as he points out the importance of the second amendment and self-defence and the importance of a small government
- pphysch 6y agoSo we're not allowed to discuss the elephant in the room i.e. the tremendous faults of unbridled late-stage capitalism and the extreme individualism it requires? I'm not sure what your point is here. I mean it makes sense given the demo here on HN, but come on.
- antepodius 6y agoIt's not individualism, it's infantilism. Everyone's waiting for daddy government/daddy employer to save them.
- pphysch 6y agoIndividualism and infantilism are not mutually exclusive