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But don’t they do this because they can Protect the consumers card data better than anyone. Everyone loves Apple for their unwavering stance in user Privacy. H

But don’t they do this because they can Protect the consumers card data better than anyone. Everyone loves Apple for their unwavering stance in user Privacy. How is this not just another example of that? (I’m not trying to be combative. I’m just playing devils advocate and pointing out this topic is way more complex than others are making it out to be)

smnrchrds 6y ago
>But don’t they do this because they can Protect the consumers card data better than anyone. Compared to what? If there is a fraudulent charge on your credit card, issue a chargeback. If I had two options: 1) Once every couple of years I may get a credit card's details stolen and I have to spend perhaps an hour on the phone with the bank to get thing sorted out, 2) the credit card issuer gives me a card with some futuristic technology that makes fraud literally impossible; so I don't have to spend that one hour every couple of years sorting out a fraudulent transaction; however, the credit card adds a 30% surcharge to every transaction—I would choose option 1, no questions. Wouldn't you?
- veilrap 6y ago
  It seems like a lot of consumers would, and do choose 2) by choosing to buy into Apple's ecosystem.
  - smnrchrds 6y ago
    Most consumers have no idea they are paying this 30%. I wish there was a law forcing the amount of Apple tax to be disclosed on a separate line in any purchase price and receipt, like it is the case with sales taxes. If people know, many would be outraged that the company they have paid over $1000 for a device is also nickel-and-diming them for using the device.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      Should we also force every other retailer to display their wholesale cost?
Jasper_ 6y ago
Sure. That's fair, if the user believes the 30% is worth the extra safety that Apple provides, they should be able to pay that. But why the restriction that developers cannot even hint that less expensive options are available through other means?

smnrchrds 6y ago

>But don’t they do this because they can Protect the consumers card data better than anyone. Compared to what? If there is a fraudulent charge on your credit card, issue a chargeback. If I had two options: 1) Once every couple of years I may get a credit card's details stolen and I have to spend perhaps an hour on the phone with the bank to get thing sorted out, 2) the credit card issuer gives me a card with some futuristic technology that makes fraud literally impossible; so I don't have to spend that one hour every couple of years sorting out a fraudulent transaction; however, the credit card adds a 30% surcharge to every transaction—I would choose option 1, no questions. Wouldn't you?

veilrap 6y ago
It seems like a lot of consumers would, and do choose 2) by choosing to buy into Apple's ecosystem.
- smnrchrds 6y ago
  Most consumers have no idea they are paying this 30%. I wish there was a law forcing the amount of Apple tax to be disclosed on a separate line in any purchase price and receipt, like it is the case with sales taxes. If people know, many would be outraged that the company they have paid over $1000 for a device is also nickel-and-diming them for using the device.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Should we also force every other retailer to display their wholesale cost?

Jasper_ 6y ago

Sure. That's fair, if the user believes the 30% is worth the extra safety that Apple provides, they should be able to pay that. But why the restriction that developers cannot even hint that less expensive options are available through other means?