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I have the opposite setup: Linux is my primary os and I have windows on a separate ssd that I can either dual boot into or use in qemu from Linux. It gets used

by mattip 6y ago

I have the opposite setup: Linux is my primary os and I have windows on a separate ssd that I can either dual boot into or use in qemu from Linux. It gets used once a month or so. I don’t game, so maybe I am the wrong demographic, but I don’t miss anything from windows. All my document work (even right-to-left languages) works well on Linux, default Ubuntu gnome. I use two monitors, with different resolution. What am I missing? I spend my time in vim/cli, slack, github in Firefox, and email on thunderbird.

chris11 6y ago
For work there's a bunch of random applications I need to use. Most documentation/IT support assumes you are using the standard macbook/windows machine. I'd rather not do the work of trying to use linux as my main OS. Plus I'm regularly writing code for mac/linux/windows hosts. Overall I like Windows as an OS, but I like using a linux command line for development. Windows with WSL2 meets most of my dev needs.
- jentist_retol 6y ago
  >Most documentation/IT support assumes you are using the standard macbook/windows machine. Frankly, learning and intuitively understanding how many software components work is a valuable skill. "do the work" is steep up front but yields dividends, imo. Personally, I use WSL2, as well.
jentist_retol 6y ago
Last time I tried it, I installed Ubuntu 18.04LTS, updated, installed the recommended graphics driver, and then the machine would not boot after that. I recently tried 20.04LTS on a laptop, with an external GPU over tb3 - it works! However, I really struggled to rectify the display density of my external 4k with the laptop's built in 1080p. I had other show stopper bugs, besides bad scaling, however. :( What you're missing is the ability to open a game for a quick session while keeping your work open in the background. What you're missing is that desktop linux is famously unpolished, and worse, brittle. There's a list of known(!) issues with desktop linux that some guy updates - currently it has over 100 entries. What you're missing is your system continuing to work after major updates (Windows 10's relatively recent and rare "big oops" bugs aside lol). Personally, I use w10 pro with deferred feature updates to mitigate this, which is kinda messed up but there you go. I simply can't afford an update to knock my desktop out, which has happened to me a few times with desktop linux. What you're missing is that "works for me" works for you, but not for me. In case you're wondering why I keep trying desktop linux, it's because what I'm missing is an open, free, libre, privacy-respecting desktop. These are values I take seriously enough that I pay yearly estimated license fees to the open source components I use in the form of donations.
- read_if_gay_ 6y ago
  > What you're missing is the ability to open a game for a quick session while keeping your work open in the background. Absolutely possible with Wine or QEMU. > What you're missing is that desktop linux is famously unpolished, and worse, brittle Correct, but arguably also true for Windows. There’s no Linux distro that has had two settings panels for years. IMO the only polished OS is macOS.
  - fomine3 6y ago
    IMO Linux desktop needs more than one settings panels. I always need to edit by gconf-editor or editing /etc/, ~/.local/ .
godelski 6y ago
I've always been confused that nvidia pushes cuda and ML but shuns linux like it is a leper. I get that gaming is M$ based, but cuda and ML is often done on linux machines. I can just hope that with AMD's competition that nvidia makes some things easier for us practitioners. I just want stable and relatively up to date drivers.

by mattip 6y ago

chris11 6y ago

For work there's a bunch of random applications I need to use. Most documentation/IT support assumes you are using the standard macbook/windows machine. I'd rather not do the work of trying to use linux as my main OS. Plus I'm regularly writing code for mac/linux/windows hosts. Overall I like Windows as an OS, but I like using a linux command line for development. Windows with WSL2 meets most of my dev needs.

jentist_retol 6y ago
>Most documentation/IT support assumes you are using the standard macbook/windows machine. Frankly, learning and intuitively understanding how many software components work is a valuable skill. "do the work" is steep up front but yields dividends, imo. Personally, I use WSL2, as well.

jentist_retol 6y ago

Last time I tried it, I installed Ubuntu 18.04LTS, updated, installed the recommended graphics driver, and then the machine would not boot after that. I recently tried 20.04LTS on a laptop, with an external GPU over tb3 - it works! However, I really struggled to rectify the display density of my external 4k with the laptop's built in 1080p. I had other show stopper bugs, besides bad scaling, however. :( What you're missing is the ability to open a game for a quick session while keeping your work open in the background. What you're missing is that desktop linux is famously unpolished, and worse, brittle. There's a list of known(!) issues with desktop linux that some guy updates - currently it has over 100 entries. What you're missing is your system continuing to work after major updates (Windows 10's relatively recent and rare "big oops" bugs aside lol). Personally, I use w10 pro with deferred feature updates to mitigate this, which is kinda messed up but there you go. I simply can't afford an update to knock my desktop out, which has happened to me a few times with desktop linux. What you're missing is that "works for me" works for you, but not for me. In case you're wondering why I keep trying desktop linux, it's because what I'm missing is an open, free, libre, privacy-respecting desktop. These are values I take seriously enough that I pay yearly estimated license fees to the open source components I use in the form of donations.

read_if_gay_ 6y ago
> What you're missing is the ability to open a game for a quick session while keeping your work open in the background. Absolutely possible with Wine or QEMU. > What you're missing is that desktop linux is famously unpolished, and worse, brittle Correct, but arguably also true for Windows. There’s no Linux distro that has had two settings panels for years. IMO the only polished OS is macOS.
- fomine3 6y ago
  IMO Linux desktop needs more than one settings panels. I always need to edit by gconf-editor or editing /etc/, ~/.local/ .

godelski 6y ago

I've always been confused that nvidia pushes cuda and ML but shuns linux like it is a leper. I get that gaming is M$ based, but cuda and ML is often done on linux machines. I can just hope that with AMD's competition that nvidia makes some things easier for us practitioners. I just want stable and relatively up to date drivers.