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> why people love this language so much Because no matter what problem you have, after 12 minutes of googling, you can pip install foo. The language almost doe

> why people love this language so much Because no matter what problem you have, after 12 minutes of googling, you can pip install foo. The language almost doesn't matter because most programming is via library api.

jakear 6y ago
I can do the same with npm, but if there’s a @types available (or better yet built in), I barely have to read long-form documentation and I get smart completions with documentation, types, etc right in my editor, specific to the exact expression I’m editing.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  And...exactly the same with mypy, either via in-library typings or the typeshed. Projects in the npm ecosystem may be somewhat more likely to.have typings if the project exists, but I find that, for anything other than web frontend, where JS is obviously king, the tool I'm looking for is more likely to actually exist in the python ecosystem.
  - jakear 6y ago
    Are there mypy typings available for things like sci-py and simpletransformers, and if so how do I acquire them?
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    - ghostwriter 6y ago
      You can gradually annotate these packages locally for your project with [1], and then contribute it to [2]. Automatic stub generation may also be helpful [3] [1] https://github.com/python/mypy/wiki/Creating-Stubs-For-Python-Modules#examples https://github.com/python/mypy/wiki/Creating-Stubs-For-Pytho... [2] https://github.com/python/typeshed https://github.com/python/typeshed [3] https://mypy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/stubgen.html https://mypy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/stubgen.html
      - jakear 6y ago
        There’s a couple dozen packages on there. This can’t be described as “exactly the same” as npm/typescript if the scale and level of community involvement [1] is nowhere near the same. 1: among the most important things here, in addition to the strength of the type system, where mypy also lacks
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ptx 6y ago
People love the language because the language doesn't matter? I don't think that quite explains it. We loved Python at version 1, before pip and PyPI were around - although the "batteries included" standard library played a similar role to some extent. For me it's mostly the syntax and the simplicity.
- sooheon 6y ago
  Just my opinion, as someone who loves the ecosystem and tolerates the language.

jakear 6y ago

I can do the same with npm, but if there’s a @types available (or better yet built in), I barely have to read long-form documentation and I get smart completions with documentation, types, etc right in my editor, specific to the exact expression I’m editing.

dragonwriter 6y ago
And...exactly the same with mypy, either via in-library typings or the typeshed. Projects in the npm ecosystem may be somewhat more likely to.have typings if the project exists, but I find that, for anything other than web frontend, where JS is obviously king, the tool I'm looking for is more likely to actually exist in the python ecosystem.
- jakear 6y ago
  Are there mypy typings available for things like sci-py and simpletransformers, and if so how do I acquire them?
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
  - ghostwriter 6y ago
    You can gradually annotate these packages locally for your project with [1], and then contribute it to [2]. Automatic stub generation may also be helpful [3] [1] https://github.com/python/mypy/wiki/Creating-Stubs-For-Python-Modules#examples https://github.com/python/mypy/wiki/Creating-Stubs-For-Pytho... [2] https://github.com/python/typeshed https://github.com/python/typeshed [3] https://mypy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/stubgen.html https://mypy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/stubgen.html
    - jakear 6y ago
      There’s a couple dozen packages on there. This can’t be described as “exactly the same” as npm/typescript if the scale and level of community involvement [1] is nowhere near the same. 1: among the most important things here, in addition to the strength of the type system, where mypy also lacks
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ptx 6y ago

People love the language because the language doesn't matter? I don't think that quite explains it. We loved Python at version 1, before pip and PyPI were around - although the "batteries included" standard library played a similar role to some extent. For me it's mostly the syntax and the simplicity.

sooheon 6y ago
Just my opinion, as someone who loves the ecosystem and tolerates the language.