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I think we as a developer community should be using this momentum as much as we can. It's just economics: being able to publish apps on the app store and not ha

by Shank 6y ago

I think we as a developer community should be using this momentum as much as we can. It's just economics: being able to publish apps on the app store and not having to take a 30% revenue hit would change the calculus for many indie and small shop developers. 30% can push many hobby apps into full time ventures for people. How many better apps and happier developers would we get if this were the case? I'm glad that DHH has a loud voice, but Basecamp has a lot of developers and I'm sure that when push comes to shove, someone will fold. I doubt it will apply to everyone, though. It would even be easy for Apple to grant an exception and let Hey continue (much easier than changing the policy for everyone). Is there any reason why we, as a community, shouldn't push as hard as we can here?

google234123 6y ago
Are you aware of how much Steam takes? Or the Microsoft Store, or Walmart...
- dmix 6y ago
  Walmart et al makes a significant percentage of their money selling positions on the shelf and in-store promotions. The actual margins on product sales aren't nearly as high as a premium products placed within good eye-range at high trafficked parts of the store. Which are almost entirely major global brands. One way things are 'free' on the internet or at least cheap is by letting the top 10% of products pay extra in a win-win sort of situation, largely subsidizing the wider 90%+. I think what we're seeing here is Apple spotting a major money maker and saying you're not getting a free pass anymore and have pay like one of the big boys. That, or Apple has to change their model somehow, which I think would be largely unattractive to their business interests and its worked fine so far with everyone else.
- jfim 6y ago
  Steam: 30% for the first 10M in sales, 25% for 10M-50M, 20% for sales above 50M Windows Store: 15% or 30%, depending on the product/platform Epic Store: 12% Amazon app store: 30% in most cases Play Store: 30% Does Walmart actually sell apps?
  - Terretta 6y ago
    Apple recurring: 30% year one, 15% years two and beyond Of my dozens and dozens of app subscriptions, all are only 15% to Apple. And also, god help me as a consumer if I had to manage those individually by going to dozens and dozens of different places.

by Shank 6y ago

google234123 6y ago

Are you aware of how much Steam takes? Or the Microsoft Store, or Walmart...

dmix 6y ago
Walmart et al makes a significant percentage of their money selling positions on the shelf and in-store promotions. The actual margins on product sales aren't nearly as high as a premium products placed within good eye-range at high trafficked parts of the store. Which are almost entirely major global brands. One way things are 'free' on the internet or at least cheap is by letting the top 10% of products pay extra in a win-win sort of situation, largely subsidizing the wider 90%+. I think what we're seeing here is Apple spotting a major money maker and saying you're not getting a free pass anymore and have pay like one of the big boys. That, or Apple has to change their model somehow, which I think would be largely unattractive to their business interests and its worked fine so far with everyone else.
jfim 6y ago
Steam: 30% for the first 10M in sales, 25% for 10M-50M, 20% for sales above 50M Windows Store: 15% or 30%, depending on the product/platform Epic Store: 12% Amazon app store: 30% in most cases Play Store: 30% Does Walmart actually sell apps?
- Terretta 6y ago
  Apple recurring: 30% year one, 15% years two and beyond Of my dozens and dozens of app subscriptions, all are only 15% to Apple. And also, god help me as a consumer if I had to manage those individually by going to dozens and dozens of different places.