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I'm exactly the audience Microsoft is winning over. For the last 3-5 years, I've been an avid Mac user. The primary reason has always been the familiarity of th

I'm exactly the audience Microsoft is winning over. For the last 3-5 years, I've been an avid Mac user. The primary reason has always been the familiarity of the terminal. Now, Apple is making a lot of hardware decisions that I don't like. Having used WSL daily for several months now, it's the game changer. My next laptop will probably be a PC, and I can only say this because of WSL.

hvis 6y ago
Your next laptop will be a personal computer?
- _cairn 6y ago
  I believe they meant PC as in PC (Windows) vs Mac. I've encountered a lot of people who use PC <-> Windows Machine interchangeably.
  - RaptorJ 6y ago
    PC as in IBM PC compatible
    - hvis 6y ago
      Does that imply Windows?
      - ivalm 6y ago
        From a historical branding perspective —- yes!
  - txcwpalpha 6y ago
    "Personal Computer" has long been specifically associated with Windows machines and specifically excludes Mac and Linux. It started with the "IBM Personal Computer" and its branding caused non-IBM machines (eg Macintosh) to use other branding ("a mac"). When IBM partnered with Microsoft to make home computers, this branding really solidified that "PC = Windows". And then of course, there was the very successful advertising campaign from Apple where they specifically distinguish Macs from PCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_a_Mac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_a_Mac Essentially, Macs are "personal computers" but they aren't "Personal Computers", if you know what I mean.
    - hvis 6y ago
      I have been rather miffed that the lack of corporate branding/identity for Linux at the time when Macintosh decided to "distinguish" itself now means that GNU/Linux machines are apparently not "personal computers" anymore. But if PC = IBM PC, and those basically always came with Microsoft software, I guess history supports that interpretation.
- jussij 6y ago
  Apple spent a lot of money selling the idea the Mac was totally different to the PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEG5LVXdKo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEG5LVXdKo

hvis 6y ago

Your next laptop will be a personal computer?

_cairn 6y ago
I believe they meant PC as in PC (Windows) vs Mac. I've encountered a lot of people who use PC <-> Windows Machine interchangeably.
- RaptorJ 6y ago
  PC as in IBM PC compatible
  - hvis 6y ago
    Does that imply Windows?
    - ivalm 6y ago
      From a historical branding perspective —- yes!
- txcwpalpha 6y ago
  "Personal Computer" has long been specifically associated with Windows machines and specifically excludes Mac and Linux. It started with the "IBM Personal Computer" and its branding caused non-IBM machines (eg Macintosh) to use other branding ("a mac"). When IBM partnered with Microsoft to make home computers, this branding really solidified that "PC = Windows". And then of course, there was the very successful advertising campaign from Apple where they specifically distinguish Macs from PCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_a_Mac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_a_Mac Essentially, Macs are "personal computers" but they aren't "Personal Computers", if you know what I mean.
  - hvis 6y ago
    I have been rather miffed that the lack of corporate branding/identity for Linux at the time when Macintosh decided to "distinguish" itself now means that GNU/Linux machines are apparently not "personal computers" anymore. But if PC = IBM PC, and those basically always came with Microsoft software, I guess history supports that interpretation.
jussij 6y ago
Apple spent a lot of money selling the idea the Mac was totally different to the PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEG5LVXdKo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEG5LVXdKo