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Explain Spotify and Netflix? The Hey app copies Netflix almost exactly, even in the language used for the subscription? How is that very clear for a rule?

ggregoire 6y ago
I don't know about Netflix but you can use the Spotify app for free, right? Now from what I understand, Apple says that you can't do anything with the "Hey" app until you get a subscription[1]. Which is then different from the Spotify app. [1] "The Hey Email app is marketed as an email app on the App Store, but when users download your app, it does not work," Apple said in a letter to Basecamp CEO Jason Fried on Thursday. "Users cannot use the app to access email or perform any useful function until after they go to the Basecamp website for Hey Email and purchase a license to use the Hey Email app."
- scarface74 6y ago
  You can’t do anything with Netflix without paying.
  - NotSammyHagar 6y ago
    Other than a short free trial. Like hey has.
  - justrudd 6y ago
    But Netflix offers in app purchases.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      No it doesn’t. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/28/netflix-no-more-itunes-billing-options/ https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/28/netflix-no-more-itunes-... Edit: I usually don’t comment on downvotes but what the hell? https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 iTunes billing for Netflix is not available to new or rejoining Netflix customers. If you are attempting to create an account on an iOS mobile device, you can sign up on Netflix.com using a mobile browser and will be prompted to provide an alternate method of payment.
      - justrudd 6y ago
        https://imgur.com/a/t6AqwEx https://imgur.com/a/t6AqwEx That's what the App Store shows me...
        lern_too_spel 6y ago
        That's presumably to support users who have existing subscriptions. GP showed that they do not allow people to pay for new subscriptions.
        scarface74 6y ago
        https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 iTunes billing for Netflix is not available to new or rejoining Netflix customers. If you are attempting to create an account on an iOS mobile device, you can sign up on Netflix.com using a mobile browser and will be prompted to provide an alternate method of payment.
    - Hamuko 6y ago
      You can't even make an account for Netflix inside the application.
uoylj 6y ago
Spotify just pays the tax, but my understanding was they filed an antitrust complaint in the EU, because Apple is charging them while offering a competing music service.
Traster 6y ago
Section 3.1.3a[1] of the App store review guidelines. There is an explicit distinction drawn between free apps that allow you to access purchased content. [1]https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#reader-apps https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#rea...
jankassens 6y ago
They seem to fall under the “reader app” exception that I understand as basically consumption of licensed works such as movies, songs, books. My guess is that those categories just don’t have the margins to support a 30% cut without charging more then other platforms. An email service, dating all or games are basically arbitrary prices where every sale is making some money for the company. The store cut is annoying, but basically it’s still revenue.

ggregoire 6y ago

I don't know about Netflix but you can use the Spotify app for free, right? Now from what I understand, Apple says that you can't do anything with the "Hey" app until you get a subscription[1]. Which is then different from the Spotify app. [1] "The Hey Email app is marketed as an email app on the App Store, but when users download your app, it does not work," Apple said in a letter to Basecamp CEO Jason Fried on Thursday. "Users cannot use the app to access email or perform any useful function until after they go to the Basecamp website for Hey Email and purchase a license to use the Hey Email app."

scarface74 6y ago
You can’t do anything with Netflix without paying.
- NotSammyHagar 6y ago
  Other than a short free trial. Like hey has.
- justrudd 6y ago
  But Netflix offers in app purchases.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    No it doesn’t. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/28/netflix-no-more-itunes-billing-options/ https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/28/netflix-no-more-itunes-... Edit: I usually don’t comment on downvotes but what the hell? https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 iTunes billing for Netflix is not available to new or rejoining Netflix customers. If you are attempting to create an account on an iOS mobile device, you can sign up on Netflix.com using a mobile browser and will be prompted to provide an alternate method of payment.
    - justrudd 6y ago
      https://imgur.com/a/t6AqwEx https://imgur.com/a/t6AqwEx That's what the App Store shows me...
      - lern_too_spel 6y ago
        That's presumably to support users who have existing subscriptions. GP showed that they do not allow people to pay for new subscriptions.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 iTunes billing for Netflix is not available to new or rejoining Netflix customers. If you are attempting to create an account on an iOS mobile device, you can sign up on Netflix.com using a mobile browser and will be prompted to provide an alternate method of payment.
  - Hamuko 6y ago
    You can't even make an account for Netflix inside the application.

uoylj 6y ago

Spotify just pays the tax, but my understanding was they filed an antitrust complaint in the EU, because Apple is charging them while offering a competing music service.

Traster 6y ago

Section 3.1.3a[1] of the App store review guidelines. There is an explicit distinction drawn between free apps that allow you to access purchased content. [1]https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#reader-apps https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#rea...

jankassens 6y ago

They seem to fall under the “reader app” exception that I understand as basically consumption of licensed works such as movies, songs, books. My guess is that those categories just don’t have the margins to support a 30% cut without charging more then other platforms. An email service, dating all or games are basically arbitrary prices where every sale is making some money for the company. The store cut is annoying, but basically it’s still revenue.