> Yes but this would take a very long time, I don't think this argument works in 2020. There are dozens of fabs in China on line and coming on line. Sure, fa

> Yes but this would take a very long time, I don't think this argument works in 2020. There are dozens of fabs in China on line and coming on line. Sure, fabs are expensive: $5B for 7nm fab, plus what, a billion more for talent? China is throwing trillions at this. The other claim implicit in this argument is that China isn't smart enough, like there's a monopoly of fab engineers: only the smart ones live in the US and work for Intel and AMD. That is nonsense bordering on racism (chinese are too dumb to compete). The rest of the supply chain: sort, test, packaging, assembly... is trivial by comparison. And Singapore does almost all of this for Intel due to lax environmental regulations: die are shipped from the US fabs in Oregon, Santa Clara and Arizona to Singapore for the final steps before being shipped back for sale. Guess where all of that post-manufacturing machinery comes from? Yup: China. Even the test equipment. It's almost like most of the people on this thread don't realize china makes their own CPUs, chipsets, and motherboards that we never even see or hear about unless you go to ISSCC, HotChips, or Embedded World. Stroll through here looking at wafer size and technology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabricat... EDIT: edited for snark and clarity.