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You mean the specific experience when back buttons aren't working? Or when urls don't make sense? Or when you can't just share the content by copying the url be

You mean the specific experience when back buttons aren't working? Or when urls don't make sense? Or when you can't just share the content by copying the url because it no longer identifies the conten? Or when you can't say if something is loading, missing, or broken? This is my user experience with SPAs regarding navigation.

robertoandred 6y ago
Use better SPAs.
- osrec 6y ago
  Agree. There are a lot of bad SPAs out there, but that's a testament to how easy they are to get started with and their popularity. That doesn't mean good SPAs don't exist - many do!
ehutch79 6y ago
If an spa is behaving like that, the coders have failed at their job.
- freehunter 6y ago
  "PHP is fine, it's just poor developers making bad sites". And then people stopped using PHP.
  - arcturus17 6y ago
    People stopped using PHP in which planet?
    - freehunter 6y ago
      Exactly.
  - osrec 6y ago
    > And then people stopped using PHP. Evidence? In my experience, PHP seems to be more in use now than ever.
    - freehunter 6y ago
      A quick HN search shows PHP’s unpopularity. Check the Stack Overflow survey if you need a second opinion. Conversely, I’m gonna need evidence that PHP is more popular than ever because that absolutely is an extraordinary claim.
  - ehutch79 6y ago
    PHP wasn't good, fine maybe, though I understand it's better now. it was kind of slow, and all the functions were inconsistent, and had a lot of foot-guns. It was easier to write more robust code and model-view-controller code in other languages. (not that it was impossible in php)
    - freehunter 6y ago
      It’s hard to make the claim that PHP is a bad language and also claim that very similar complaints don’t also apply to Javascript. They’re both languages defined by their popularity in spite of how poor the language actually is.
      - ehutch79 6y ago
        javascript is a dumpster fire. unfortunately it's the only actually viable language in the browser.

robertoandred 6y ago

Use better SPAs.

osrec 6y ago
Agree. There are a lot of bad SPAs out there, but that's a testament to how easy they are to get started with and their popularity. That doesn't mean good SPAs don't exist - many do!

ehutch79 6y ago

If an spa is behaving like that, the coders have failed at their job.

freehunter 6y ago
"PHP is fine, it's just poor developers making bad sites". And then people stopped using PHP.
- arcturus17 6y ago
  People stopped using PHP in which planet?
  - freehunter 6y ago
    Exactly.
- osrec 6y ago
  > And then people stopped using PHP. Evidence? In my experience, PHP seems to be more in use now than ever.
  - freehunter 6y ago
    A quick HN search shows PHP’s unpopularity. Check the Stack Overflow survey if you need a second opinion. Conversely, I’m gonna need evidence that PHP is more popular than ever because that absolutely is an extraordinary claim.
- ehutch79 6y ago
  PHP wasn't good, fine maybe, though I understand it's better now. it was kind of slow, and all the functions were inconsistent, and had a lot of foot-guns. It was easier to write more robust code and model-view-controller code in other languages. (not that it was impossible in php)
  - freehunter 6y ago
    It’s hard to make the claim that PHP is a bad language and also claim that very similar complaints don’t also apply to Javascript. They’re both languages defined by their popularity in spite of how poor the language actually is.
    - ehutch79 6y ago
      javascript is a dumpster fire. unfortunately it's the only actually viable language in the browser.