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I find it disgusting how politicized this particular drug became. I think people really decided that it was either useless or miraculous simply because of Trump

by Mizza 6y ago

I find it disgusting how politicized this particular drug became. I think people really decided that it was either useless or miraculous simply because of Trump's excitment about it. There was a period of time in March when this was an early leading candidate for treatment and the government acted proactively. I don't think this was a bad decision, even if it was incorrect in hindsight.

non-entity 6y ago
> I find it disgusting how politicized this particular drug became. I cant fucking stand this type of shit anymore. No critical thinking, just attach some initial opinion about something based on how its been politicized and never think about it again. It's either Trump is God is said ots good so it's good, or Trump is the devil and said it's bad so its bad. Then just dismiss any sort potential evidence to contrary as propaganda / conspiracy / etc. Wish there was was away to get away from it.
- sundbry 6y ago
  This is the democrazy we chose. It's not going to last very much longer. It is nearly impossible to make rational, level-headed decisions. Federalist 10 was prophetic.
ciarannolan 6y ago
It highlights the importance of good leadership, which in this case does not happen to include going on TV and blabbering about drugs you know nothing about. If the president was able to keep his mouth shut these HQ studies could have continued uninterrupted and the conversation around HQ wouldn't be such a political mess.
- cm2187 6y ago
  In other words it is not the fault of the people who are trying to kill a molecule just because they don’t like Trump?
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    >>If the president was able to keep his mouth shut these HQ studies could have continued uninterrupted and the conversation around HQ wouldn't be such a political mess.
    - thu2111 6y ago
      What they're saying is, the studies could have continued uninterrupted anyway. It doesn't actually matter what Trump thinks or says, he doesn't control individual studies. On the other hand, people who hate Trump like the editor of the Lancet actually did manage to interrupt studies. After publishing the now retracted "HCQ is dangerous" paper, lots of studies were suspended worldwide.
      - ciarannolan 6y ago
        >It doesn't actually matter what Trump thinks or says [...] Yes it does. The president went on TV and blabbered about things he knows nothing about and turned HQ into a political issue. His inability to shut up and listen to public health experts, his need to stroke his ego and insert himself into every situation, makes the president the fons et origo, the problem in the first place. Remember when "the buck" stopped with the president? When the president was a respectable, thoughtful person? When the president wouldn't do something as foolish and irresponsible as telling Americans to try a drug he heard about on cable news? He could have done one thing to improve America's response to Covid-19: shut up and listen to experts. But there's something innate in this president, his comically obvious case of narcissistic personality disorder, that doesn't let him do that.

by Mizza 6y ago

non-entity 6y ago

> I find it disgusting how politicized this particular drug became. I cant fucking stand this type of shit anymore. No critical thinking, just attach some initial opinion about something based on how its been politicized and never think about it again. It's either Trump is God is said ots good so it's good, or Trump is the devil and said it's bad so its bad. Then just dismiss any sort potential evidence to contrary as propaganda / conspiracy / etc. Wish there was was away to get away from it.

sundbry 6y ago
This is the democrazy we chose. It's not going to last very much longer. It is nearly impossible to make rational, level-headed decisions. Federalist 10 was prophetic.

ciarannolan 6y ago

It highlights the importance of good leadership, which in this case does not happen to include going on TV and blabbering about drugs you know nothing about. If the president was able to keep his mouth shut these HQ studies could have continued uninterrupted and the conversation around HQ wouldn't be such a political mess.

cm2187 6y ago
In other words it is not the fault of the people who are trying to kill a molecule just because they don’t like Trump?
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  >>If the president was able to keep his mouth shut these HQ studies could have continued uninterrupted and the conversation around HQ wouldn't be such a political mess.
  - thu2111 6y ago
    What they're saying is, the studies could have continued uninterrupted anyway. It doesn't actually matter what Trump thinks or says, he doesn't control individual studies. On the other hand, people who hate Trump like the editor of the Lancet actually did manage to interrupt studies. After publishing the now retracted "HCQ is dangerous" paper, lots of studies were suspended worldwide.
    - ciarannolan 6y ago
      >It doesn't actually matter what Trump thinks or says [...] Yes it does. The president went on TV and blabbered about things he knows nothing about and turned HQ into a political issue. His inability to shut up and listen to public health experts, his need to stroke his ego and insert himself into every situation, makes the president the fons et origo, the problem in the first place. Remember when "the buck" stopped with the president? When the president was a respectable, thoughtful person? When the president wouldn't do something as foolish and irresponsible as telling Americans to try a drug he heard about on cable news? He could have done one thing to improve America's response to Covid-19: shut up and listen to experts. But there's something innate in this president, his comically obvious case of narcissistic personality disorder, that doesn't let him do that.