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Spotify definitely pays 30%. See https://timetoplayfair.com/timeline/ https://timetoplayfair.com/timeline/ I assume that Hulu also pays the same 30%.

zaroth 6y ago
Thanks for the correction. It looks like Netflix also had at one time been paying substantial fees to Apple, and then I see articles from 2019 saying they turned off IAP, but if I look on the App Store right now I can see IAP for Netflix is listed... so I'm definitely confused about the policy. > Spotify pays Apple a 15% fee for only about 0.5% of its paid members, according to Apple's response to Spotify's complaint about App Store fees. So Apple gets approximately 0.075% of Spotify revenue through App Store fees. Here's what Apple's site actually says about their Reader policy; > 3.1.3(a) “Reader” Apps: Apps may allow a user to access previously purchased content or content subscriptions (specifically: magazines, newspapers, books, audio, music, video, access to professional databases, VoIP, cloud storage, and approved services such as classroom management apps), provided that you agree not to directly or indirectly target iOS users to use a purchasing method other than in-app purchase, and your general communications about other purchasing methods are not designed to discourage use of in-app purchase. So Reader apps don't get free IAP. It's not clear if they must offer IAP, but certainly it seems at some point both Spotify and Netflix tried to get away from it, but it seems to be back just looking live now at the App Store. There's also some recent developments where Apple is letting Amazon / Prime Video sell/rent movies and shows by billing your Amazon account in the app now, where-as earlier this year you would have to go through the browser to make the purchase. [2] I know that I personally only subscribe to Spotify because I listen to it on my iPhone. I've never even tried to use it on a desktop. I also subscribed to Spotify through their website, not through the App Store. I securely downloaded the Spotify app for free, from Apple servers, using an Apple SDK, and get regular automatic updates to the app using Apple's platform. [1] - https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-fires-back-spotify-pays-fees-on-less-than-1-percent-of-members/ https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-fires-back-spotify-pays-fees... [2] - https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21203630/apple-amazon-prime-video-ios-app-store-cut-exempt-program-deal https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21203630/apple-amazon-prim...
screwycaboose 6y ago
it's only 30% of the first year if you allow subscriptions in app, then 15% the following years

zaroth 6y ago

Thanks for the correction. It looks like Netflix also had at one time been paying substantial fees to Apple, and then I see articles from 2019 saying they turned off IAP, but if I look on the App Store right now I can see IAP for Netflix is listed... so I'm definitely confused about the policy. > Spotify pays Apple a 15% fee for only about 0.5% of its paid members, according to Apple's response to Spotify's complaint about App Store fees. So Apple gets approximately 0.075% of Spotify revenue through App Store fees. Here's what Apple's site actually says about their Reader policy; > 3.1.3(a) “Reader” Apps: Apps may allow a user to access previously purchased content or content subscriptions (specifically: magazines, newspapers, books, audio, music, video, access to professional databases, VoIP, cloud storage, and approved services such as classroom management apps), provided that you agree not to directly or indirectly target iOS users to use a purchasing method other than in-app purchase, and your general communications about other purchasing methods are not designed to discourage use of in-app purchase. So Reader apps don't get free IAP. It's not clear if they must offer IAP, but certainly it seems at some point both Spotify and Netflix tried to get away from it, but it seems to be back just looking live now at the App Store. There's also some recent developments where Apple is letting Amazon / Prime Video sell/rent movies and shows by billing your Amazon account in the app now, where-as earlier this year you would have to go through the browser to make the purchase. [2] I know that I personally only subscribe to Spotify because I listen to it on my iPhone. I've never even tried to use it on a desktop. I also subscribed to Spotify through their website, not through the App Store. I securely downloaded the Spotify app for free, from Apple servers, using an Apple SDK, and get regular automatic updates to the app using Apple's platform. [1] - https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-fires-back-spotify-pays-fees-on-less-than-1-percent-of-members/ https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-fires-back-spotify-pays-fees... [2] - https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21203630/apple-amazon-prime-video-ios-app-store-cut-exempt-program-deal https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21203630/apple-amazon-prim...

screwycaboose 6y ago

it's only 30% of the first year if you allow subscriptions in app, then 15% the following years