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How many people reading this have a years worth of food? Could any of us survive something similar to this eruption? I think covid really opened alot of peoples

How many people reading this have a years worth of food? Could any of us survive something similar to this eruption? I think covid really opened alot of peoples eyes to extreme worldwide disasters (volcanos, large earthquakes, pandemics) and how most are not prepared for it at all and yes these things do and will continue to keep happening.

divbzero 6y ago
I hope this pandemic has opened everyone’s eyes to the benefits of disaster preparedness. If more of us get into the habit of stocking up in advance, we would experience less of a spike in demand when the next disaster strikes.
- ryandrake 6y ago
  I considered myself an "aspirational Prepper" before the pandemic, but I'm getting more and more serious about it. Watching society totally freak out over as little as going without TP for a few weeks and going without their manicure for a few months has been eye-opening. My plans to stock up on survival supplies and buy a little bug out property in a remote spot have gone from "wouldn't that be neat?" to "maybe it is time to set some money aside and start building up a savings for this" pretty quickly.
  - subsubzero 6y ago
    I try to be prepared as possible, at least for covid there was a little warning, I was extremely concerned late Jan. '20 and bought extra TP/paper towels/razors before everything went crazy. For a volcanic eruption there is little to no warning so having essentials on hand seems pretty important. I went to school/knew alot of Mormons and used to poke fun at them for having so much canned food(the church mentions stocking up on a years worth of food) and that doesn't seem that out of line now.
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ghaff 6y ago
I'd just point out that keeping a year's worth of food for a rapid and unexpected event is nuclear bunker level prep. It also requires spending a lot of money and storage space on something that's going to have to be rotated out every few years. And while some things can last pretty much indefinitely, other things have shelf lifes and you're probably not going to use all those canned goods during normal times. So there's a very significant annual cost to maintaining that perpetual one year supply of necessaries.
- grumple 6y ago
  You've got to buy things that you'll eat anyway - like canned beans, etc, and use them and replace them regularly.
  - ghaff 6y ago
    I do not eat canned beans (other than baked beans) or canned vegetables generally. Most of the things I would buy for "prepping" would be just thrown out in a few years.
    - koheripbal 6y ago
      Canned foods can last a decade. It's not like you're throwing out the entire store every year. Perboiled rice lasts 15-20 YEARS if kept dry.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  It doesn't need to be expensive at all. Perboiled rice is cheap and lasts literally 15 years. Canned food can last years. ...and if you're eating food, you can naturally rotate out what you have in the basement.
- swader999 6y ago
  Rice and beans are inexpensive and if you pack them right twenty years no problem. I've got six full five gain pales.
quickthrower2 6y ago
Forgetting macro/micro and focusing on calories, using a cheap food source, I'd need 0.75 metric tonnes of oats to do this, for 4 people. Probably doable for $750 say, I am guessing at a bulk price. Most years I'd need to chuck it. Probably could slim down and live off half that. Or 500 cal/day for adults with more for the kids. It is survival situation after all.
swader999 6y ago
I do. Enough good soil and seeds to go longer too.
vbezhenar 6y ago
Also consider that you need a community with weapons to defend your "years worth of food" from those who did not have that. You can see that even in peaceful times when nothing really happened, government collapsed and left their citizens to defend themselves from bandits. Imagine a global disaster. IMO that's the main issue with those hoarders. You can hoard as much as you can, but local gang will expropriate everything. So may be it's better to stock guns and bullets...
- ghaff 6y ago
  Throughout the current situation, did it make sense to keep a few weeks of non-perishable food in the house in the event of quarantine and even temporary power outages? Sure. But, if they were being logically consistent, anyone arguing for a 12 month supply of rice and beans should also have: - Headed for a place in the hills/woods - Stocked up on guns and ammo however unpopular an opinion that might be in certain circles - A generator and gasoline - Lots of large containers of water - Seeds/tools/etc. The list goes on. It's one thing to guard against short-term disruption to supply chains. It's another to basically guard against civilizational collapse. And if you just hoard 12 months of rice and beans in your suburban, much less urban, apartment, you're way overdoing it for the former and not preparing at all for the latter.

divbzero 6y ago

I hope this pandemic has opened everyone’s eyes to the benefits of disaster preparedness. If more of us get into the habit of stocking up in advance, we would experience less of a spike in demand when the next disaster strikes.

ryandrake 6y ago
I considered myself an "aspirational Prepper" before the pandemic, but I'm getting more and more serious about it. Watching society totally freak out over as little as going without TP for a few weeks and going without their manicure for a few months has been eye-opening. My plans to stock up on survival supplies and buy a little bug out property in a remote spot have gone from "wouldn't that be neat?" to "maybe it is time to set some money aside and start building up a savings for this" pretty quickly.
- subsubzero 6y ago
  I try to be prepared as possible, at least for covid there was a little warning, I was extremely concerned late Jan. '20 and bought extra TP/paper towels/razors before everything went crazy. For a volcanic eruption there is little to no warning so having essentials on hand seems pretty important. I went to school/knew alot of Mormons and used to poke fun at them for having so much canned food(the church mentions stocking up on a years worth of food) and that doesn't seem that out of line now.

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ghaff 6y ago

I'd just point out that keeping a year's worth of food for a rapid and unexpected event is nuclear bunker level prep. It also requires spending a lot of money and storage space on something that's going to have to be rotated out every few years. And while some things can last pretty much indefinitely, other things have shelf lifes and you're probably not going to use all those canned goods during normal times. So there's a very significant annual cost to maintaining that perpetual one year supply of necessaries.

grumple 6y ago
You've got to buy things that you'll eat anyway - like canned beans, etc, and use them and replace them regularly.
- ghaff 6y ago
  I do not eat canned beans (other than baked beans) or canned vegetables generally. Most of the things I would buy for "prepping" would be just thrown out in a few years.
  - koheripbal 6y ago
    Canned foods can last a decade. It's not like you're throwing out the entire store every year. Perboiled rice lasts 15-20 YEARS if kept dry.
koheripbal 6y ago
It doesn't need to be expensive at all. Perboiled rice is cheap and lasts literally 15 years. Canned food can last years. ...and if you're eating food, you can naturally rotate out what you have in the basement.
swader999 6y ago
Rice and beans are inexpensive and if you pack them right twenty years no problem. I've got six full five gain pales.

quickthrower2 6y ago

Forgetting macro/micro and focusing on calories, using a cheap food source, I'd need 0.75 metric tonnes of oats to do this, for 4 people. Probably doable for $750 say, I am guessing at a bulk price. Most years I'd need to chuck it. Probably could slim down and live off half that. Or 500 cal/day for adults with more for the kids. It is survival situation after all.

swader999 6y ago

I do. Enough good soil and seeds to go longer too.

vbezhenar 6y ago

Also consider that you need a community with weapons to defend your "years worth of food" from those who did not have that. You can see that even in peaceful times when nothing really happened, government collapsed and left their citizens to defend themselves from bandits. Imagine a global disaster. IMO that's the main issue with those hoarders. You can hoard as much as you can, but local gang will expropriate everything. So may be it's better to stock guns and bullets...

ghaff 6y ago
Throughout the current situation, did it make sense to keep a few weeks of non-perishable food in the house in the event of quarantine and even temporary power outages? Sure. But, if they were being logically consistent, anyone arguing for a 12 month supply of rice and beans should also have: - Headed for a place in the hills/woods - Stocked up on guns and ammo however unpopular an opinion that might be in certain circles - A generator and gasoline - Lots of large containers of water - Seeds/tools/etc. The list goes on. It's one thing to guard against short-term disruption to supply chains. It's another to basically guard against civilizational collapse. And if you just hoard 12 months of rice and beans in your suburban, much less urban, apartment, you're way overdoing it for the former and not preparing at all for the latter.