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Judging by how your relevant, informative, and constructive comment has been downvoted, HN has its fair share of white supremacists. I sincerely hope the modera

Judging by how your relevant, informative, and constructive comment has been downvoted, HN has its fair share of white supremacists. I sincerely hope the moderation team takes a look at what's going on here rather than nuking this submission for being 'too political', sweeping this under the rug.

chowells 6y ago
The white supremacist contingent on HN is organized and very active. And for some reason, their organized bad-faith activity isn't being responded to by the moderators. In fact, they can't even distinguish it from "natural" responses, given previous remarks they've made. I wish they made a bit more of an effort to understand the patterns of organized white supremacist action.
- sillysaurusx 6y ago
  If I know one thing about Dan, I know for a fact that he does actively look into stuff like this. I've had my disagreements with his moderation, but him being lazy (or incompetent, as your comment implies) isn't among the criticisms. This is yet another mistaken comment about moderation with no evidence to back it up.
  - krapp 6y ago
    Their initial statement remains true, regardless of their opinion about moderation response to it. You just have to follow dang's account and see how often he has to point out that nationalistic and race-war content isn't allowed (and, every now and then ban someone dumb enough to go full Nazi.)
    - sillysaurusx 6y ago
      Perhaps it's true that this site is particularly whitewashed. But it's also home to some of the most compelling arguments I've seen for why inclusiveness matters, how and why you should support minorities in tech, and so on. "The exact opposite of white supremacist positions." So if you're going to claim that it's particularly supremacist, you'll also have to claim it's particularly leftist. It's probably more reasonable to suggest that the site is used by many, many people, each of which has a slightly different perspective. You're also probably remembering the outliers. Doubly so by reading Dan's comments, which are necessarily outliers.
      - krapp 6y ago
        Fair enough, although I don't particularly like the trend around here of needing to establish an equivalence with the left whenever the right is mentioned or criticized, since people criticizing the left rarely seem obliged to return the favor.
- ALittleLight 6y ago
  How do you know it's organized and very active and even exists, versus there are five to ten pro-Trump people who saw and downvoted an anti-Trump comment?

chowells 6y ago

The white supremacist contingent on HN is organized and very active. And for some reason, their organized bad-faith activity isn't being responded to by the moderators. In fact, they can't even distinguish it from "natural" responses, given previous remarks they've made. I wish they made a bit more of an effort to understand the patterns of organized white supremacist action.

sillysaurusx 6y ago
If I know one thing about Dan, I know for a fact that he does actively look into stuff like this. I've had my disagreements with his moderation, but him being lazy (or incompetent, as your comment implies) isn't among the criticisms. This is yet another mistaken comment about moderation with no evidence to back it up.
- krapp 6y ago
  Their initial statement remains true, regardless of their opinion about moderation response to it. You just have to follow dang's account and see how often he has to point out that nationalistic and race-war content isn't allowed (and, every now and then ban someone dumb enough to go full Nazi.)
  - sillysaurusx 6y ago
    Perhaps it's true that this site is particularly whitewashed. But it's also home to some of the most compelling arguments I've seen for why inclusiveness matters, how and why you should support minorities in tech, and so on. "The exact opposite of white supremacist positions." So if you're going to claim that it's particularly supremacist, you'll also have to claim it's particularly leftist. It's probably more reasonable to suggest that the site is used by many, many people, each of which has a slightly different perspective. You're also probably remembering the outliers. Doubly so by reading Dan's comments, which are necessarily outliers.
    - krapp 6y ago
      Fair enough, although I don't particularly like the trend around here of needing to establish an equivalence with the left whenever the right is mentioned or criticized, since people criticizing the left rarely seem obliged to return the favor.
ALittleLight 6y ago
How do you know it's organized and very active and even exists, versus there are five to ten pro-Trump people who saw and downvoted an anti-Trump comment?