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What good is a VPN if you have to reveal all of your personally identifiable information to the vendor? You're better off using Mullvad directly--it looks like

What good is a VPN if you have to reveal all of your personally identifiable information to the vendor? You're better off using Mullvad directly--it looks like they don't require you to fork over personal information to use their service. Shameless plug: SatoshiVPN (https://satoshivpn.com https://satoshivpn.com) gives you access to your own private and anonymous VPN server with Outline pre-installed, no questions asked. Payments in Bitcoin only.

asimpletune 6y ago
Might want to make pricing easier to find.
- satoshivpn 6y ago
  Acknowledged. Thank you!
dewey 6y ago
> What good is a VPN if you have to reveal all of your personally identifiable information to the vendor? Because most peoples threat model doesn't include actors that can force a VPN provider to give up their data. They just use it because it's making it easier to not get data stolen in a coffee shop and watch US Netflix.
- satoshivpn 6y ago
  If you have two equally great user experiences and in one case you have to share your personal information, and in another you don't, which would you choose?
  - dewey 6y ago
    The one where the company behind has a good reputation and seems trustworthy. Like Mullvad where their real address, developers, history and open source projects are available on the website (https://mullvad.net/en/help/no-logging-data-policy/ https://mullvad.net/en/help/no-logging-data-policy/) and they have been around for a while without any scandals that I'm aware of. If there's a new provider out with no name, company address, audits or history and tells me they are not sharing personal information I just have to take their word for it. So it's not much better than the alternative if I can't verify it.
r3trohack3r 6y ago
Assuming Mozilla isn't compelled by law to share it's entire database of user information on a rolling basis without a warrant, I suspect (in the U.S.) it would be somewhat effective at shielding yourself from bulk metadata collection (government mass surveillance) of your online communications by obfuscating that metadata. Compare this to your ISP and telecom providers. A subset of the larger providers willingly handed over the communication metadata of their users without warrant.
- satoshivpn 6y ago
  You know what they say about assumptions.
  - r3trohack3r 6y ago
    We know as of 2013 this was the case. Participating in the government's bulk metadata collection was voluntary. 2013 is a long time ago though.
umaar 6y ago
Can you comment on the pricing? Am I understanding correctly that 1 year of your VPN service costs $195 USD?
- satoshivpn 6y ago
  That's correct. Or, $1 for 1 day. Or, 1 hour for free.
miniyarov 6y ago
Public VPN services should not be trusted blindly. Online anonymity is very hard. However, you can still create your own VPN server on cloud providers for at least have some privacy while you are on an untrusted network. Because of this reason, I created https://zudvpn.com https://zudvpn.com - It is a free and open-source mobile application that's used to deploy a private VPN server on major Cloud Providers! Github repo: https://github.com/zudvpn/ZudVPN https://github.com/zudvpn/ZudVPN

asimpletune 6y ago

Might want to make pricing easier to find.

satoshivpn 6y ago
Acknowledged. Thank you!

dewey 6y ago

> What good is a VPN if you have to reveal all of your personally identifiable information to the vendor? Because most peoples threat model doesn't include actors that can force a VPN provider to give up their data. They just use it because it's making it easier to not get data stolen in a coffee shop and watch US Netflix.

satoshivpn 6y ago
If you have two equally great user experiences and in one case you have to share your personal information, and in another you don't, which would you choose?
- dewey 6y ago
  The one where the company behind has a good reputation and seems trustworthy. Like Mullvad where their real address, developers, history and open source projects are available on the website (https://mullvad.net/en/help/no-logging-data-policy/ https://mullvad.net/en/help/no-logging-data-policy/) and they have been around for a while without any scandals that I'm aware of. If there's a new provider out with no name, company address, audits or history and tells me they are not sharing personal information I just have to take their word for it. So it's not much better than the alternative if I can't verify it.

r3trohack3r 6y ago

Assuming Mozilla isn't compelled by law to share it's entire database of user information on a rolling basis without a warrant, I suspect (in the U.S.) it would be somewhat effective at shielding yourself from bulk metadata collection (government mass surveillance) of your online communications by obfuscating that metadata. Compare this to your ISP and telecom providers. A subset of the larger providers willingly handed over the communication metadata of their users without warrant.

satoshivpn 6y ago
You know what they say about assumptions.
- r3trohack3r 6y ago
  We know as of 2013 this was the case. Participating in the government's bulk metadata collection was voluntary. 2013 is a long time ago though.

umaar 6y ago

Can you comment on the pricing? Am I understanding correctly that 1 year of your VPN service costs $195 USD?

satoshivpn 6y ago
That's correct. Or, $1 for 1 day. Or, 1 hour for free.

miniyarov 6y ago

Public VPN services should not be trusted blindly. Online anonymity is very hard. However, you can still create your own VPN server on cloud providers for at least have some privacy while you are on an untrusted network. Because of this reason, I created https://zudvpn.com https://zudvpn.com - It is a free and open-source mobile application that's used to deploy a private VPN server on major Cloud Providers! Github repo: https://github.com/zudvpn/ZudVPN https://github.com/zudvpn/ZudVPN