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Yeah this comment makes no sense. That would be terrible publicity for Mozilla. Also, Reddit uses HTTPS (like every other mainstream website) so Mozilla/Mullva

Yeah this comment makes no sense. That would be terrible publicity for Mozilla. Also, Reddit uses HTTPS (like every other mainstream website) so Mozilla/Mullvad can't see what you're posting or even what your username is.

devwastaken 6y ago
As long as there's no leaks over http traffic of course. Advertisers are great at data exfiltration.
Jonnax 6y ago
Essentially their former CEO was/is against gay marriage and donated to some organisation that was campaigning against it. People found out, some employees weren't happy also some sites put up a message when Firefox users visited. OkCupid (a dating site) straight up blocked Firefox users saying that they prefer users to use other browsers. So as Mozilla is a company. They decided to get rid of the CEO. Because he was now bad for business. However for some people in the tech world. This was an unforgivable sin: an attack on free speech.
- opendomain 6y ago
  I think this was a setup. Brendan Eich is the creator of JavaScript and was the CTO of Mozilla. He is intelligent and works hard on open source. However, he HAD opposed same sex marriage. While he was CTO of Mozilla, no one cared. When he became CEO, there was a smear campaign to get rid of him. I respect his contributions, but not his politics. He has the freedom to say what he believes - I still use Firefox. IMHO this was just an excuse to get ride of him as CEO.
  - kelnos 6y ago
    Yeah, I never really understood all the animosity against Mozilla or Firefox around this. IMO giving money toward homophobic causes is reprehensible, and Eich sounds like someone I wouldn't want to be friends with or work with, but he is not Mozilla and Mozilla is not him. > He has the freedom to say what he believes ... IMHO this was just an excuse to get [rid] of him as CEO. I support the right of employees to hold their executives to high standards, even (especially?) when those standards aren't directly related to the work they do. It was a messy situation and perhaps not handled perfectly, but I don't see anything wrong with the end result being his resignation. Yes, the timing was suspicious (I would have been uncomfortable reporting to him "even" as a CTO), but I would argue more along the lines of "took you long enough" instead of "why is this suddenly an issue now?" > ... but not his politics I really dislike seeing things like this phrased as "politics". Treating other people with respect and giving them equal rights isn't politics, it's basic human decency. I hope in 50 years we look back at this time period and are appalled at how we treated our fellow humans.
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devwastaken 6y ago

As long as there's no leaks over http traffic of course. Advertisers are great at data exfiltration.

Jonnax 6y ago

Essentially their former CEO was/is against gay marriage and donated to some organisation that was campaigning against it. People found out, some employees weren't happy also some sites put up a message when Firefox users visited. OkCupid (a dating site) straight up blocked Firefox users saying that they prefer users to use other browsers. So as Mozilla is a company. They decided to get rid of the CEO. Because he was now bad for business. However for some people in the tech world. This was an unforgivable sin: an attack on free speech.

opendomain 6y ago
I think this was a setup. Brendan Eich is the creator of JavaScript and was the CTO of Mozilla. He is intelligent and works hard on open source. However, he HAD opposed same sex marriage. While he was CTO of Mozilla, no one cared. When he became CEO, there was a smear campaign to get rid of him. I respect his contributions, but not his politics. He has the freedom to say what he believes - I still use Firefox. IMHO this was just an excuse to get ride of him as CEO.
- kelnos 6y ago
  Yeah, I never really understood all the animosity against Mozilla or Firefox around this. IMO giving money toward homophobic causes is reprehensible, and Eich sounds like someone I wouldn't want to be friends with or work with, but he is not Mozilla and Mozilla is not him. > He has the freedom to say what he believes ... IMHO this was just an excuse to get [rid] of him as CEO. I support the right of employees to hold their executives to high standards, even (especially?) when those standards aren't directly related to the work they do. It was a messy situation and perhaps not handled perfectly, but I don't see anything wrong with the end result being his resignation. Yes, the timing was suspicious (I would have been uncomfortable reporting to him "even" as a CTO), but I would argue more along the lines of "took you long enough" instead of "why is this suddenly an issue now?" > ... but not his politics I really dislike seeing things like this phrased as "politics". Treating other people with respect and giving them equal rights isn't politics, it's basic human decency. I hope in 50 years we look back at this time period and are appalled at how we treated our fellow humans.

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