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or go to WWDC and just make this the topic of every Q&A

by evan_ 6y ago

LeoPanthera 6y ago
"Apple" is not a single monolithic entity. The engineers who will be working their asses off to create and present WWDC have absolutely nothing to do with the business decisions of the App Store. Do not bully them, and do not waste the time of other participants who will have genuine engineering questions.
- wildfire 6y ago
  Those engineers enabled this outcome. It is perfectly reasonable to ask why they facilitated immoral actions. There is a code of ethics all computing professionals should use to consider their actions. https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics#:~:text=The%20Code%20includes%20principles%20formulated,understanding%20and%20applying%20the%20principle https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics#:~:text=The%20Code%20incl....
  - mikestew 6y ago
    It is perfectly reasonable to ask why they facilitated immoral actions. Are you seriously proposing to give the presenter for the Core Audio session grief over this? IMO, that's just being a jackass "because purity". Or something; I'm at a loss to truly categorize such behavior.
    - evan_ 6y ago
      I think it's very relevant to ask the folks actually building the stuff what they think. If Apple won't answer questions about the platform through the proper channels, might as well go through the wrong channels. We're not going to get less of an answer.
    - PascLeRasc 6y ago
      Off topic, but do you know if there's actually going to be a CoreAudio session? I've been doing a ton of reading on it over the past year and I'd love to tune in.
      - mikestew 6y ago
        Without looking at the schedule, I cannot say. I simply typed the first “Core” framework that came to mind at the moment.
  - Razengan 6y ago
    > It is perfectly reasonable to ask why they facilitated immoral actions. Should you be held accountable for everything any company you ever worked at has done or will do?
- evan_ 6y ago
  The published guidelines are incomplete at best. The real rules seem to be arbitrary and aren't applied consistently. All of this talk about how "business services" get treated differently, enforcement changing in March, none of this is written down or available anywhere. It's a guessing game. Building an app that follows the published rules and then finding out that the rules that matter are actually wildly different, digging through twitter threads and blog posts to try to figure out what's allowed- frankly those are the wastes of developer time that bother me more.

or go to WWDC and just make this the topic of every Q&A

by evan_ 6y ago

or go to WWDC and just make this the topic of every Q&A

"Apple" is not a single monolithic entity. The engineers who will be working their asses off to create and present WWDC have absolutely nothing to do with the business decisions of the App Store. Do not bully them, and do not waste the time of other participants who will have genuine engineering questions.

wildfire 6y ago
Those engineers enabled this outcome. It is perfectly reasonable to ask why they facilitated immoral actions. There is a code of ethics all computing professionals should use to consider their actions. https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics#:~:text=The%20Code%20includes%20principles%20formulated,understanding%20and%20applying%20the%20principle https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics#:~:text=The%20Code%20incl....
- mikestew 6y ago
  It is perfectly reasonable to ask why they facilitated immoral actions. Are you seriously proposing to give the presenter for the Core Audio session grief over this? IMO, that's just being a jackass "because purity". Or something; I'm at a loss to truly categorize such behavior.
  - evan_ 6y ago
    I think it's very relevant to ask the folks actually building the stuff what they think. If Apple won't answer questions about the platform through the proper channels, might as well go through the wrong channels. We're not going to get less of an answer.
  - PascLeRasc 6y ago
    Off topic, but do you know if there's actually going to be a CoreAudio session? I've been doing a ton of reading on it over the past year and I'd love to tune in.
    - mikestew 6y ago
      Without looking at the schedule, I cannot say. I simply typed the first “Core” framework that came to mind at the moment.
- Razengan 6y ago
  > It is perfectly reasonable to ask why they facilitated immoral actions. Should you be held accountable for everything any company you ever worked at has done or will do?
evan_ 6y ago
The published guidelines are incomplete at best. The real rules seem to be arbitrary and aren't applied consistently. All of this talk about how "business services" get treated differently, enforcement changing in March, none of this is written down or available anywhere. It's a guessing game. Building an app that follows the published rules and then finding out that the rules that matter are actually wildly different, digging through twitter threads and blog posts to try to figure out what's allowed- frankly those are the wastes of developer time that bother me more.