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As a user of Flow for the past few weeks, I've been blown away by its UI and usefulness. Unfortunately, the pricing seems a bit steep for personal use. I'd also
by nicksergeant 16y ago
As a user of Flow for the past few weeks, I've been blown away by its UI and usefulness. Unfortunately, the pricing seems a bit steep for personal use. I'd also like to see some clarity on how pricing works with groups of people.
- revorad 16y agoSo how much would you pay for personal use? It seems almost impossible to sell any web app for personal use.
- lovskogen 16y agoHow is that impossible?
- revorad 16y agoHow many examples of web apps can you give me, which are being sold directly to consumers for personal use? By personal use, I mean not for use at or for work. I can barely think of a handful and even those are quite often paid for by the buyer's employer as a perk or productivity investment.
- gojomo 16y agoWhat's the reasoning behind 'almost impossible'? A price point of $40/2-to-4-users, or even $40/year, is much more thinkable for individuals/families than $120/year/person. From the screenshots, it seems like it should be possible to have a cheaper capped-to-a-small-set-of-collaborators version that a family of 3-6 could use, but still charge business prices for more/arbitrary collaborators and other features. (I have a friend who's been looking for a good app to coordinate family tasks with his wife; iPhone apps and simplicity/speed/reliability of interface are of paramount importance... but integration with web/email/desktop, following-features, and threads are all of negligible importance. Flow looks nice but overkill in features and price for this need.)
- revorad 16y agoDo families pay recurring fees for web apps? Apart from some high-quality photo sharing apps, I can't think of any examples.
- jarin 16y agoMobileMe, Geni
- revorad 16y agoThanks, I didn't know about those. I do know some people who pay for family tree research software. MobileMe is also a desktop app though. Regargless, my point is that there are very few web apps that people pay for to use outside of work.
- revorad 16y agoPosted it as a separate question - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2356589 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2356589
- charliepark 16y agoAs a datapoint, they do for mine (budgeting software, https://www.pearbudget.com/ https://www.pearbudget.com/). $4.95 / month, or $49.50 / year.
- revorad 16y agoHey thanks, that looks great! Hope it's working out well for you.
- dstein 16y agoIt seems almost impossible to sell any web app I think this is becoming (or always has been) a general truth. Customers now expect everything available on the internet to be free. But they're more than happy to pay money for things that aren't on the internet.
- teaspoon 16y agoI pay $12/month each for GitHub and Harvest, both for personal use.
- revorad 16y agoBy personal use, I mean not using it for work. You may be using Github purely for personal use, but Harvest is clearly for business. Do you pay for any other apps?
- teaspoon 16y agoYou're correct; my Harvest use is only personal in the sense that I have a single-user account. However, I do pay for Netflix ($9/month) and TurboTax ($75/year) for non-business use. I used to pay for .Mac, as well.
- subpixel 16y agoI respectfully call this a ridiculous proposition. How is $10/mo expensive for this, or for anything in life? It seems to me Flow pricing is learning a valuable lesson from MobileMe: if it's useful, people will pay.
- revorad 16y agoAre you a Flow or MobileMe customer? I'm genuinely curious and want to know why you'd pay for these.
- subpixel 16y agoI'm not a Flow customer, but if it solves a problem for me I may signup (I gave up on Things, just started using Wunderlist, but delegating/collaborating are very useful features I've wished for...) I pay for MobileMe b/c it gives me true over-the-air contact/calendar sync on my iPhone. If another solution came around, I might consider it, but could it be free? And if not free, less than $10/mo? I also pay for Flickr for purely personal use, b/c I want to be able to share my photos and let my friends/family download full-res files.
- famousactress 16y agoI don't think the argument is whether or not the product is worth 10$, but whether or not people will think it's worth it, and pay. I don't think 14 days is enough time for a product like this to become indispensable to me, and for 120$/year it needs to be. 120$ buys a lot of egg salad sandwiches.
- stevederico 16y agoI am a Flow user/lover. But if you are looking for a free alternative check out Wunderlist. No group features but similar. http://www.6wunderkinder.com/wunderlist/ http://www.6wunderkinder.com/wunderlist/
- bjonathan 16y agoProducteev (http://producteev.com http://producteev.com ) has been around for a couple of months and really solid alternative IMHO, cross platform, free for individuals, and moving fast! We are very happy with it!
- statictype 16y agoYes. This seems like something that would be valuable to a business (Say a catering service or a party planning service or package delivery service or whatever). Their video (and pricing) seems to indicate this. For running a business that requires coordination among many people, the price is utterly reasonable (if not slightly cheap).