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I'm working on an end-to-end encrypted analytics SaaS, to try and solve the "putting your eggs in someone else's basket" problem, while offering something simpl

I'm working on an end-to-end encrypted analytics SaaS, to try and solve the "putting your eggs in someone else's basket" problem, while offering something simpler than self-hosting. I'm collecting feedback and looking to open it for beta in the next couple of weeks, but there's already a preview signup link in the newsletter, where I share my progress on building the platform on a weekly basis. https://chiffre.io https://chiffre.io

JackWritesCode 6y ago
We’ve been building this as an option too. It’s a cool feature that a lot of people will like. Good luck
m90 6y ago
Out of interest, if you say you honor DNT, how exactly do you handle browsers that do not allow setting this as a user preference anymore (Firefox, Safari)?
- franky47 6y ago
  Firefox's settings (as of v77) still allow you to set (or unset) DNT, and I honor that. For Safari unfortunately, Apple chose to remove this feature because it could be used for fingerprinting, so there is not much to be done here.
  - m90 6y ago
    Interesting, did Firefox revert their decision towards DNT? I remember being confronted with the behavior of it sending DNT headers no matter what, which must have been something around spring 2019.
    - franky47 6y ago
      Possibly, I'm not using the DNT header though, because of the encryption, I need to know about DNT before the analytics data is even sent. I use navigator.doNotTrack, and where it's set I only encrypt and send a minimal visit count event.
      - m90 6y ago
        I tried to do the exact same thing and had to stop considering DNT as it would essentially collect Chrome only back then. Good thing they have reverted this I guess. DNT makes a lot of sense as a concept still.
        Carpetsmoker 6y ago
        IMO it's pretty much useless (and possibly even harmful) and a failed experiment. GoatCounter intentionally ignores it. Context: https://www.arp242.net/dnt.html https://www.arp242.net/dnt.html

JackWritesCode 6y ago

We’ve been building this as an option too. It’s a cool feature that a lot of people will like. Good luck

m90 6y ago

Out of interest, if you say you honor DNT, how exactly do you handle browsers that do not allow setting this as a user preference anymore (Firefox, Safari)?

franky47 6y ago
Firefox's settings (as of v77) still allow you to set (or unset) DNT, and I honor that. For Safari unfortunately, Apple chose to remove this feature because it could be used for fingerprinting, so there is not much to be done here.
- m90 6y ago
  Interesting, did Firefox revert their decision towards DNT? I remember being confronted with the behavior of it sending DNT headers no matter what, which must have been something around spring 2019.
  - franky47 6y ago
    Possibly, I'm not using the DNT header though, because of the encryption, I need to know about DNT before the analytics data is even sent. I use navigator.doNotTrack, and where it's set I only encrypt and send a minimal visit count event.
    - m90 6y ago
      I tried to do the exact same thing and had to stop considering DNT as it would essentially collect Chrome only back then. Good thing they have reverted this I guess. DNT makes a lot of sense as a concept still.
      - Carpetsmoker 6y ago
        IMO it's pretty much useless (and possibly even harmful) and a failed experiment. GoatCounter intentionally ignores it. Context: https://www.arp242.net/dnt.html https://www.arp242.net/dnt.html