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I'm shocked less by the fact the person was identified and more by the fact the person didn't feel the need to cover up an identifying tattoo or a limited-run t
by def8cefe 6y ago
I'm shocked less by the fact the person was identified and more by the fact the person didn't feel the need to cover up an identifying tattoo or a limited-run t-shirt they left a review for while committing a felony. I'm starting to think criminals are stupid.
- president 6y ago> I'm starting to think criminals are stupid. It just means we're catching the stupid ones
- hoorayimhelping 6y ago>I'm starting to think criminals are stupid. That is a really dangerous move and doesn't really line up with my experiences. This woman was pretty stupid. She's not a criminal though, she's a massage therapist.
- el_dev_hell 6y ago> She's not a criminal though, she's a massage therapist. Legitimate question: What's your definition of a criminal?
- def8cefe 6y agoI had my tongue so far in my cheek when I wrote that I may need stitches. She may not be a career criminal but after she torched a police car she's at least an amateur.
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoWho committed a criminal act. Doesn't that make her a criminal?
- sethammons 6y agoReminds me: when I was younger, I rear ended the car in front if me. When I recounted the story to my friend’s mom, I said I had a good following distance, to which she said I obviously didn’t. The proof is in the pudding. Same with the “Straight A Student” who insists they can’t have earned a B since they are a Straight A Student. Welp, you did earn the B, so... There is a lack of accountability and people look for reasons to escape it, not embrace it.
- rurp 6y agoWait, what!? How does torching a police car not count as a criminal act?
- jethro_tell 6y agoIt's the difference between premeditated and an act of passion. There are tons of people who aren't fighters that leave the house, get drunk then try to start a fight in the street.
- throwawaygh 6y agoThere are at least three readings of hoorayimhelping's post: 1. This person is not a criminal in some particular all-encompassing sense of the word. I.e., some people commit one-off crimes of passion while others make a lifestyle/career out of crime. Presuming that the latter are stupid because the former are stupid is dangerous because organized criminals have learned good internet op-sec. That's interesting. 2. Thinking of people who commit crimes as "criminals" and making blanket assumptions about the criminal element is a mistake. That might be a well-trodden critique, but it's interesting enough that there have been some (quite influential) books written around the topic. This seems like the more likely intent. Thinking about how the social phenomena induced by the internet and social media interact with those 20th century ideas about identity and subjectivity might result in an interesting conversation. E.g., suppose torching a cop car was an act of passion and this person's name is now forever associated with a crime of passion. That seems... new and different... relative to 30 years ago. Back then, you could just move somewhere new where no one knew your past; as long as you didn't become a criminal in that new place, you could basically start over. What might be the societal implications of continuing to assign "criminal" as a dominant identity in the age of an internet that never forgets? 3. hoorayimhelping believes that there is no law in the US which prohibits the torching of cop cars. The first two are charitable interpretations that might result in curiosity-driven conversation (in which you may or may not want to participate). The third.... isn't so charitable and is unlikely to go anywhere.
- ryandrake 6y agoWhether someone "is a criminal" should have something to do with how much of a regular part of their life it is. Just like someone who smoked a joint once 20 years ago isn't considered a drug user, someone who committed a one-off crime isn't a criminal.
- sigzero 6y agoIf she did it, she's a criminal.
- WealthVsSurvive 6y agoMeh, it was just some lawless mafia thug's car; I say we let it slide as she provided a net good to society.
- Talanes 6y agoShe doesn't seem to have started the initial fires, so I'm much less shocked. It's not smart, but it was almost certainly a spontaneous act. emboldened by the crowd.
- drocer88 6y agoFrom the link: "various videos captured her wearing protective goggles and gloves, taking a flaming piece of wooden police barricade from the rear window of the sedan that was already on fire, and then shoving the flaming wood into the SUV that was not on fire." Having protective goggles and gloves?
- pwdisswordfish2 6y agoAccording to some prosecutors I know, it is quite common for criminals to post their exploits on Facebook.
- elliekelly 6y agoI suspect ego and greed are responsible for catching a lot of people who have committed a crime. They just can’t seem to resist bragging about it and if they can resist bragging about it they can’t resist trying to get away with it again.
- jedberg 6y agoI know you you meant it tongue-in-cheek, but when I was investigating computer crimes in 2003/4/5, the criminals would often sign their work on the assumption that the police were stupid.
- losvedir 6y agoHeh, like the Wet Bandits.
- BurningFrog 6y agoThe criminals who get caught are stupid. The smart criminals rule us.
- rcurry 6y agoIf you’re gonna do a crime, do a complicated crime...
- jakemal 6y agoI think people put a little too much faith into "safety in numbers" during these riots.
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- tootahe45 6y agoYou don't need to look past the cause they're protesting to see how stupid they are.
- Shared404 6y agoPolice brutality shouldn't be protested?