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Seems like the conspiracy theories that the rich and global elite harvest the blood of the young and innocent to rejuvenate them isn't as false as we once thoug

Seems like the conspiracy theories that the rich and global elite harvest the blood of the young and innocent to rejuvenate them isn't as false as we once thought... /s Sometimes I wish we had a medical system where whoever wanted to be a test patient for whatever reason could sign on the dotted line once advised of the potential downsides (up to and including death assumedly) so we could advance medical science faster. Maybe we'd find out things a lot faster than we currently do.

asdfman123 6y ago
That's a silly conspiracy theory. Why steal it when you can pay a poor a pittance?
sp332 6y ago
Some conspiracy theory, they have a price list. https://www.ambrosiaplasma.com/ https://www.ambrosiaplasma.com/
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y ago
  this is amazing. how did you find this, and do you know of any other health/longevity tips?
  - sp332 6y ago
    Nope, I just heard about it in the news a while back.
- mushbino 6y ago
  $8,000 for 2 liters. I knew it would be expensive, but that's bonkers.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Boy, wait until those customers find out they paid all that money for young plasma when all they needed was a saline and albumin solution.
mrfusion 6y ago
The point of this paper is no harvesting needed.
macrolime 6y ago
From interview with the authors, why you should be a bit careful with just going ahead and trying this out "This is a somewhat invasive procedure where your whole blood goes through a machine and the cells are returned to you and the plasma is diluted. It is not completely benign, and you cannot just keep doing it every day. So, to know how long the effects last and to know it for each individual is an additional know-how part that we found out from a couple of years of research and are studying further. I’m sure there will be competition, but I just want to warn everybody, do not go somewhere and get your blood replaced with saline. Wait until there are reputable clinical trials and people know a little bit more."
- shepardrtc 6y ago
  > do not go somewhere and get your blood replaced with saline I just did that this morning when I donated blood. They said they needed the plasma badly, so they took the red blood cells and the plasma, and returned a saline solution. So maybe you just need to donate blood/plasma often to stay young?
  - macrolime 6y ago
    study shows that people, who donate a lot of blood, suffer no serious ill effects and may even live longer than less frequent donors. https://sciencenordic.com/body-death-denmark/frequent-blood-donors-live-longer/1425568 https://sciencenordic.com/body-death-denmark/frequent-blood-...
    - hanniabu 6y ago
      Unfortunately they don't give any details on what constitutes more frequent and less frequent. For example once a month vs once a year or once very 2 weeks vs once every 2 years, etc.
      - MiguelHudnandez 6y ago
        Whole blood donation generally is only allowed every 8 weeks. Double-red blood cell donation is allowed every 16 weeks up to a maximum amount per 12-month period. I believe Plasma can be safely donated every 4 weeks. Doesn't tell you specifics about the study, but know there are different kinds of blood donation and different frequencies that are permitted for each. I think it's common for regular donors to donate almost as often as is recommended.
DarthGhandi 6y ago
Wouldn't call it a conspiracy, the show Silicon Valley was mocking those who do it years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo
klyrs 6y ago
I think you missed the point... this article shows that the blood of the innocent is overrated and saline can be used in its place. If we're going with vampire conspiracies, they no longer need mortal donors, and can now exterminate us all with no consequence.
celloductor 6y ago
the link pretty much dismissed that whole theory.

asdfman123 6y ago

That's a silly conspiracy theory. Why steal it when you can pay a poor a pittance?

sp332 6y ago

Some conspiracy theory, they have a price list. https://www.ambrosiaplasma.com/ https://www.ambrosiaplasma.com/

M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y ago
this is amazing. how did you find this, and do you know of any other health/longevity tips?
- sp332 6y ago
  Nope, I just heard about it in the news a while back.
mushbino 6y ago
$8,000 for 2 liters. I knew it would be expensive, but that's bonkers.
chrisco255 6y ago
Boy, wait until those customers find out they paid all that money for young plasma when all they needed was a saline and albumin solution.

mrfusion 6y ago

The point of this paper is no harvesting needed.

macrolime 6y ago

From interview with the authors, why you should be a bit careful with just going ahead and trying this out "This is a somewhat invasive procedure where your whole blood goes through a machine and the cells are returned to you and the plasma is diluted. It is not completely benign, and you cannot just keep doing it every day. So, to know how long the effects last and to know it for each individual is an additional know-how part that we found out from a couple of years of research and are studying further. I’m sure there will be competition, but I just want to warn everybody, do not go somewhere and get your blood replaced with saline. Wait until there are reputable clinical trials and people know a little bit more."

shepardrtc 6y ago
> do not go somewhere and get your blood replaced with saline I just did that this morning when I donated blood. They said they needed the plasma badly, so they took the red blood cells and the plasma, and returned a saline solution. So maybe you just need to donate blood/plasma often to stay young?
- macrolime 6y ago
  study shows that people, who donate a lot of blood, suffer no serious ill effects and may even live longer than less frequent donors. https://sciencenordic.com/body-death-denmark/frequent-blood-donors-live-longer/1425568 https://sciencenordic.com/body-death-denmark/frequent-blood-...
  - hanniabu 6y ago
    Unfortunately they don't give any details on what constitutes more frequent and less frequent. For example once a month vs once a year or once very 2 weeks vs once every 2 years, etc.
    - MiguelHudnandez 6y ago
      Whole blood donation generally is only allowed every 8 weeks. Double-red blood cell donation is allowed every 16 weeks up to a maximum amount per 12-month period. I believe Plasma can be safely donated every 4 weeks. Doesn't tell you specifics about the study, but know there are different kinds of blood donation and different frequencies that are permitted for each. I think it's common for regular donors to donate almost as often as is recommended.

DarthGhandi 6y ago

Wouldn't call it a conspiracy, the show Silicon Valley was mocking those who do it years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo

klyrs 6y ago

I think you missed the point... this article shows that the blood of the innocent is overrated and saline can be used in its place. If we're going with vampire conspiracies, they no longer need mortal donors, and can now exterminate us all with no consequence.

celloductor 6y ago

the link pretty much dismissed that whole theory.