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Programming is a subset of software engineering. A large number of important disciplines surround programming, including ones that just join one programmer's ou

by Jabbles 16y ago

Programming is a subset of software engineering. A large number of important disciplines surround programming, including ones that just join one programmer's output to another. To state that you can get by solely with programming is foolish if you are tackling a problem of any complexity. Of course, reducing the overhead and improving the morale of developers is always a good thing, but somehow I don't think this is what you were implying.

davidw 16y ago
Stop trying to be all boring and rational. We are busy ecstatically voting up an article in which Zed Shaw says "motherfucker!" numerous times, providing much mirth for all. Next up are funny cat pictures.
- jedsmith 16y ago
  I know this goes against the old guard, but I'd much rather laugh at a post like this once in a while than have HN be serious and dry, every day, every submission. That's never going to happen, but I haven't gotten as much amusement out of a HN item and its threads in a long time, and that's of value to me. It's an outright tragedy that any lighthearted submission immediately brings out people replying "flagged!" and lamenting that HN is turning into Reddit. Kudos to Zed for pulling it off. If only it had been Lighten Up, Motherfuckers.
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  - reinhardt 16y ago
    "Kudos to Zed for pulling it off" ? C'mon, he's the prototypical "rockstar programmer", just putting his name out there and a few profanities is enough to push it to the top. Honestly, I don't mind the (debatable) humour of the submission as much as the fact that it's a case of "the message is the messenger". If this was posted by the random Joe P. Rogrammer (a) it wouldn't be #1 post in HN and (b) it wouldn't be welcomed with so many open arms.
  - ptn 16y ago
    I bet pg upvoted
nfelger 16y ago
Ha! You tried reason. Fool. This isn't a place for reason.
fleitz 16y ago
Software engineering is a subset of programming, particularly the subset that values unit tests, methodology, and a whole host of other bullshit over shipping code.
- zedshaw 16y ago
  I like unit tests, because they're also, Programming, Motherfucker.
- ethangunderson 16y ago
  Software engineering is a subset of programming, particularly the subset where people give a shit about the code they ship.

by Jabbles 16y ago

davidw 16y ago

Stop trying to be all boring and rational. We are busy ecstatically voting up an article in which Zed Shaw says "motherfucker!" numerous times, providing much mirth for all. Next up are funny cat pictures.

jedsmith 16y ago
I know this goes against the old guard, but I'd much rather laugh at a post like this once in a while than have HN be serious and dry, every day, every submission. That's never going to happen, but I haven't gotten as much amusement out of a HN item and its threads in a long time, and that's of value to me. It's an outright tragedy that any lighthearted submission immediately brings out people replying "flagged!" and lamenting that HN is turning into Reddit. Kudos to Zed for pulling it off. If only it had been Lighten Up, Motherfuckers.
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- reinhardt 16y ago
  "Kudos to Zed for pulling it off" ? C'mon, he's the prototypical "rockstar programmer", just putting his name out there and a few profanities is enough to push it to the top. Honestly, I don't mind the (debatable) humour of the submission as much as the fact that it's a case of "the message is the messenger". If this was posted by the random Joe P. Rogrammer (a) it wouldn't be #1 post in HN and (b) it wouldn't be welcomed with so many open arms.
- ptn 16y ago
  I bet pg upvoted

nfelger 16y ago

Ha! You tried reason. Fool. This isn't a place for reason.

fleitz 16y ago

Software engineering is a subset of programming, particularly the subset that values unit tests, methodology, and a whole host of other bullshit over shipping code.

zedshaw 16y ago
I like unit tests, because they're also, Programming, Motherfucker.
ethangunderson 16y ago
Software engineering is a subset of programming, particularly the subset where people give a shit about the code they ship.