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I'm truly curious what part of XP gets in the way of programming.

by bjclark 16y ago

rch 16y ago
This part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XP-feedback.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XP-feedback.gif
- bjclark 16y ago
  It looks like there's a lot of programming going on there. The lack of continuous deployment has been an admission of omission by Kent Beck, but other than that, is it the fact that there is a meeting once a day and once a week? Planning of any kind gets in the way of programming?
  - rch 16y ago
    I didn't say that at all. Once I worked with a guy who would work out the entire application on paper before even touching a computer. Think Fortran, C, and hardcore information theory. If he owned a laptop I never saw it. His company has been profitable for years and years and years. So, sure, planning can work out very well and I do a lot of it too.
bradleyland 16y ago
The part where you talk more about how you're going to program than actually Programming, Motherfucker.
- bjclark 16y ago
  Who does that? I don't know anyone that actually does XP that does that. There's no such thing as XP certification, and I have never seen an XP class offered. There's not even an XP conference anymore.
  - StudyAnimal 16y ago
    http://xp2011.org/ http://xp2011.org/
    - bjclark 16y ago
      That's interesting. I hadn't heard of it.
  - zedshaw 16y ago
    > There's not even an XP conference anymore. I wonder why?
    - bjclark 16y ago
      The same reason you don't have Programming, Motherfucker conference, I'd guess?
      - twymer 16y ago
        It was a joke as well?
    - jasonwocky 16y ago
      Cuz we XPers are too busy Programming, Motherfucker!
      - zedshaw 16y ago
        Only 1/2 of you. The other half is too busy staring at Eclipse and pointing out the red squigly lines like you're contributing something in a pair.
        jasonwocky 16y ago
        You're confusing Typing, Motherfucker with Programming, Motherfucker! It's ok. My project managers have made the same mistake.
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kitplummer 16y ago
What is XP?

I'm truly curious what part of XP gets in the way of programming.

by bjclark 16y ago

I'm truly curious what part of XP gets in the way of programming.

rch 16y ago

This part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XP-feedback.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XP-feedback.gif

bjclark 16y ago
It looks like there's a lot of programming going on there. The lack of continuous deployment has been an admission of omission by Kent Beck, but other than that, is it the fact that there is a meeting once a day and once a week? Planning of any kind gets in the way of programming?
- rch 16y ago
  I didn't say that at all. Once I worked with a guy who would work out the entire application on paper before even touching a computer. Think Fortran, C, and hardcore information theory. If he owned a laptop I never saw it. His company has been profitable for years and years and years. So, sure, planning can work out very well and I do a lot of it too.

bradleyland 16y ago

The part where you talk more about how you're going to program than actually Programming, Motherfucker.

bjclark 16y ago
Who does that? I don't know anyone that actually does XP that does that. There's no such thing as XP certification, and I have never seen an XP class offered. There's not even an XP conference anymore.
- StudyAnimal 16y ago
  http://xp2011.org/ http://xp2011.org/
  - bjclark 16y ago
    That's interesting. I hadn't heard of it.
- zedshaw 16y ago
  > There's not even an XP conference anymore. I wonder why?
  - bjclark 16y ago
    The same reason you don't have Programming, Motherfucker conference, I'd guess?
    - twymer 16y ago
      It was a joke as well?
  - jasonwocky 16y ago
    Cuz we XPers are too busy Programming, Motherfucker!
    - zedshaw 16y ago
      Only 1/2 of you. The other half is too busy staring at Eclipse and pointing out the red squigly lines like you're contributing something in a pair.
      - jasonwocky 16y ago
        You're confusing Typing, Motherfucker with Programming, Motherfucker! It's ok. My project managers have made the same mistake.
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kitplummer 16y ago

What is XP?