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Are there any useful applications for face recognition that don't have massive potential for abuse? I have thought about this for a while and it seems all cloud

Are there any useful applications for face recognition that don't have massive potential for abuse? I have thought about this for a while and it seems all cloud based face recognition can (and probably will) be abused. I think we are building a scary future. Just wait until microphone technology is good enough to listen to every public conversation.

flattone 6y ago
Complete blind assumption: Gov LEO tech Probably way ahead of us. The status of a problem doesn’t change need to address and resolve.
bluedino 6y ago
What about something like: extremely dangerous, wanted criminal is on the loose. He's known to be a in a large city, and you use facial recognition to find/track him before he can commit a bombing or something like that.
- ninjaturtlez 6y ago
  He said that "didn't have potential for abuse", I think the situation you gave defines abuse. Tracking everyone to catch one person is not acceptable in my opinion.
- f1refly 6y ago
  Yeah but what about: Some guy you really hate for his speeches hides in the city. Why not go there and suicide him before he goes and tells the people how their lifes can be much better or nonsense like that. Or related to that: Let's assume you really hate the Jews for, I dont know, existing maybe. Why not track them all down and put them in camps? It's not like they can hide from you you, you know where everyone is all the time after all.
- spaetzleesser 6y ago
  That’s exactly the situation that has the potential for massive abuse. There is a central institution that’s tracking all movements of all people. What’s stopping them from going after inconvenient people or selling information?
kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
Casinos were some of the earliest users.
WiseWeasel 6y ago
Visual recognition of individuals seems useful as authentication in a lot of scenarios, in conjunction with secrets. I’d feel better about my bank or title company authenticating me visually for certain operations in addition to current methods. Though maybe a simple trusted video recording without recognition would do just as well for resolving disputes.
DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
I’m not face-blind, but I do suck at remembering who people are. I want it for my Google Glass so it tells me who I’m talking to so I stop embarrassing myself when someone greets me - now if only wearing GG in public was socially acceptable...
- Reelin 6y ago
  To be fair, that could easily be implemented in a personal manner with manual tagging. There's no need for giant centralized databases or violations of privacy to achieve your usecase.
  - DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
    I was referring to facial-recognition in general - I could train a recognizer on my phone's contacts photos. I didn't mean getting a GG app that used a database trained on public Facebook and LinkedIn photos.
edanm 6y ago
I'm not saying you're wrong, but "does this technology have potential for abuse" is not a great metric IMO. E.g. computers have potential for abuse, phones have potential for abuse, pretty much any tech we've ever developed that helped someone also coincidentally helped people we wish it wouldn't, whether it be criminals, or just made the government more powerful (if that's something that worries you).

flattone 6y ago

Complete blind assumption: Gov LEO tech Probably way ahead of us. The status of a problem doesn’t change need to address and resolve.

bluedino 6y ago

What about something like: extremely dangerous, wanted criminal is on the loose. He's known to be a in a large city, and you use facial recognition to find/track him before he can commit a bombing or something like that.

ninjaturtlez 6y ago
He said that "didn't have potential for abuse", I think the situation you gave defines abuse. Tracking everyone to catch one person is not acceptable in my opinion.
f1refly 6y ago
Yeah but what about: Some guy you really hate for his speeches hides in the city. Why not go there and suicide him before he goes and tells the people how their lifes can be much better or nonsense like that. Or related to that: Let's assume you really hate the Jews for, I dont know, existing maybe. Why not track them all down and put them in camps? It's not like they can hide from you you, you know where everyone is all the time after all.
spaetzleesser 6y ago
That’s exactly the situation that has the potential for massive abuse. There is a central institution that’s tracking all movements of all people. What’s stopping them from going after inconvenient people or selling information?

kevin_thibedeau 6y ago

Casinos were some of the earliest users.

WiseWeasel 6y ago

Visual recognition of individuals seems useful as authentication in a lot of scenarios, in conjunction with secrets. I’d feel better about my bank or title company authenticating me visually for certain operations in addition to current methods. Though maybe a simple trusted video recording without recognition would do just as well for resolving disputes.

DaiPlusPlus 6y ago

I’m not face-blind, but I do suck at remembering who people are. I want it for my Google Glass so it tells me who I’m talking to so I stop embarrassing myself when someone greets me - now if only wearing GG in public was socially acceptable...

Reelin 6y ago
To be fair, that could easily be implemented in a personal manner with manual tagging. There's no need for giant centralized databases or violations of privacy to achieve your usecase.
- DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
  I was referring to facial-recognition in general - I could train a recognizer on my phone's contacts photos. I didn't mean getting a GG app that used a database trained on public Facebook and LinkedIn photos.

edanm 6y ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, but "does this technology have potential for abuse" is not a great metric IMO. E.g. computers have potential for abuse, phones have potential for abuse, pretty much any tech we've ever developed that helped someone also coincidentally helped people we wish it wouldn't, whether it be criminals, or just made the government more powerful (if that's something that worries you).