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Aside: I saw new beauty in chess recently in a game with a queen vs a rook, knight, and pawn in the end game. The game lasted for over 40 moves in this state be
by Buttons840 6y ago
Aside: I saw new beauty in chess recently in a game with a queen vs a rook, knight, and pawn in the end game. The game lasted for over 40 moves in this state before ending in a draw. Chess engine analysis had the game as dead even.
Chess may be a bit more complicated and arbitrary than Go, but seeing how the pieces very exactly fit their 1, 3, 5, and 9 point values allowed me to see the mathematical beauty of the game for the first time.
- krick 6y agoThey don't "exactly fit their 1, 3, 5, and 9 point values" at all. Piece value is depending on the stage of the game and even the exact position, and even averaged value estimation fluctuates wildly. For example, for Stockfish it's 4.16, 4.41, 6.625, 12.92 (N, B, R, Q). And for endgames too, a queen vs 2 rooks may be winning for either side or a draw depending on a position.
- Buttons840 6y agoYou mean stockfish is programmed to consider a queen as being worth almost 13 points? Granted, the pieces naive value matters little compared to the tree search stockfish does.
- krick 6y agoYes, stockfish is programmed to consider a queen as being worth "almost 13 points", and no, "naïve" piece values have absolutely crucial, primarily role to do the search and complete the mission.