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"All Lives Matter" taken literally totally is compatible with "Black Lives Matter". However "All Lives Matter" when said is not meant literally. No one said all

"All Lives Matter" taken literally totally is compatible with "Black Lives Matter". However "All Lives Matter" when said is not meant literally. No one said all livers matter until someone said "Black Lives Matters". It's an attempt to shut down "Black Lives Matter". And the opposite of "Black Lives Matter" isn't the opposite of "All Lives Matter", the opposite is Black Lives Don't Matter, which is what is happening when so many black people are killed by the police and no one says or does anything. Looking at the evidence how black people are treated by law enforcement as well as the legal system, that they are treated as less than equal.

s9w 6y ago
As a counterpoint, look at what happens with the "it's okay to be white" posters. Completely benign, commonsense and not a reaction to something. And yet...
- scottlocklin 6y ago
  Much like "radicalizing" the OK hand sign as meaning "WP," and the latest lolcow of making hawaiian shirts a sign of terrorist groups: seems like the right wing meme makers keep coming up with these things to alienate normies from activist types, and the left, who above all else in current year America, seems to enjoy thinking they have special knowledge that requires they lecture others about what is morally acceptable, keeps taking the bait. I don't see this pattern ending well.
  - s9w 6y ago
    I'm having honest problems parsing this comment. What's WP and what's a lolcow?
    - scott_paul 6y ago
      Ah well WP is WordPress, of course. Truly an evil thing that we must all apologize for, forever, or until it's perfectly bug-free. As for lolcow, you'll be more entertained if you google it than if anyone explains it to you.
      - s9w 6y ago
        What a time to be alive.
    - scohesc 6y ago
      WP - white power lolcow - scheme or meme dreamed up by internet nerds that has the potential to cause humorous results (see: 4chan posting fake apple ads online saying your phone could be charged by putting it in the microwave, 4chan saying you could drill out the bottom corner of your iPhone to uncover the "secret" headphone jack, etc.)
    - scottlocklin 6y ago
      Someone else answered, but literally the OK sign with your hand (index and thumb touching) is supposed to represent the letter W (the three fingers splayed make a sort of W I guess) and the letter P (I don't see it either). Which is supposed to mean "white power." This is a meme completely generated by online pranksters, but some/many left leaning activist types take it EXTREMELY seriously. For examples [1] [2] [3]. There are tons of things like this (I mentioned hawaiian shirts being one of the latest); they're mostly generated as pranks on imageboards, and as far as I can tell, they're designed to discredit humorless leftists, rather than actually transmit high frequency right wing brainwashing messages. Imagine being a normal person who makes the OK sign, or wonders out loud why it isn't OK to be white and is condemned as an evil nazi by .... "activists" for the full effect. I mean, the OK sign has been used for assent for ... what? 2500 years? I'll let you figure out lolcow on your own. [1] https://www.adl.org/blog/how-the-ok-symbol-became-a-popular-trolling-gesture https://www.adl.org/blog/how-the-ok-symbol-became-a-popular-... [2] https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white... [3] https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/21/1636419/-Yes-Trump-s-Aide-Really-Did-Throw-White-Power-Sign https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/21/1636419/-Yes-Trum...
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  Not a reaction to something? Really?
jeffreyrogers 6y ago
> which is what is happening when so many black people are killed by the police and no one says or does anything. Hard to say no one does anything when you see the massive riots and protests that have occurred recently. And are so many black people killed by police? They don't seem to be killed more than other groups. So maybe police killings in general are a problem, but they don't seem specifically directed at black people.

s9w 6y ago

As a counterpoint, look at what happens with the "it's okay to be white" posters. Completely benign, commonsense and not a reaction to something. And yet...

scottlocklin 6y ago
Much like "radicalizing" the OK hand sign as meaning "WP," and the latest lolcow of making hawaiian shirts a sign of terrorist groups: seems like the right wing meme makers keep coming up with these things to alienate normies from activist types, and the left, who above all else in current year America, seems to enjoy thinking they have special knowledge that requires they lecture others about what is morally acceptable, keeps taking the bait. I don't see this pattern ending well.
- s9w 6y ago
  I'm having honest problems parsing this comment. What's WP and what's a lolcow?
  - scott_paul 6y ago
    Ah well WP is WordPress, of course. Truly an evil thing that we must all apologize for, forever, or until it's perfectly bug-free. As for lolcow, you'll be more entertained if you google it than if anyone explains it to you.
    - s9w 6y ago
      What a time to be alive.
  - scohesc 6y ago
    WP - white power lolcow - scheme or meme dreamed up by internet nerds that has the potential to cause humorous results (see: 4chan posting fake apple ads online saying your phone could be charged by putting it in the microwave, 4chan saying you could drill out the bottom corner of your iPhone to uncover the "secret" headphone jack, etc.)
  - scottlocklin 6y ago
    Someone else answered, but literally the OK sign with your hand (index and thumb touching) is supposed to represent the letter W (the three fingers splayed make a sort of W I guess) and the letter P (I don't see it either). Which is supposed to mean "white power." This is a meme completely generated by online pranksters, but some/many left leaning activist types take it EXTREMELY seriously. For examples [1] [2] [3]. There are tons of things like this (I mentioned hawaiian shirts being one of the latest); they're mostly generated as pranks on imageboards, and as far as I can tell, they're designed to discredit humorless leftists, rather than actually transmit high frequency right wing brainwashing messages. Imagine being a normal person who makes the OK sign, or wonders out loud why it isn't OK to be white and is condemned as an evil nazi by .... "activists" for the full effect. I mean, the OK sign has been used for assent for ... what? 2500 years? I'll let you figure out lolcow on your own. [1] https://www.adl.org/blog/how-the-ok-symbol-became-a-popular-trolling-gesture https://www.adl.org/blog/how-the-ok-symbol-became-a-popular-... [2] https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white... [3] https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/21/1636419/-Yes-Trump-s-Aide-Really-Did-Throw-White-Power-Sign https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/21/1636419/-Yes-Trum...
AnimalMuppet 6y ago
Not a reaction to something? Really?

jeffreyrogers 6y ago

> which is what is happening when so many black people are killed by the police and no one says or does anything. Hard to say no one does anything when you see the massive riots and protests that have occurred recently. And are so many black people killed by police? They don't seem to be killed more than other groups. So maybe police killings in general are a problem, but they don't seem specifically directed at black people.