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If it ain't fun why do it?

by artsyca 6y ago

mihaaly 6y ago
Because it is important? Well, actually doing important things is kind of fun, so never mind.
- artsyca 6y ago
  That's the spirit mihaaly. Now follow this line of reasoning a little deeper like good little knowledge worker my dearest colleague.
CydeWeys 6y ago
For many of us SWEs on here, it's literally our job ...
- artsyca 6y ago
  It's only a job if you treat it like one. But then again you most likely refuse to dress up for it, amiright? And you'll throw every prevarication in the book at me as to why dressing up for work isn't necessary. And I'll tell you that's employee mentality talking. And you'll say but I'm an engineer. And I'll say dressing up is fun, for children and adults alike And you'll say fun has no place at a job. And try as you might despite all of your engineer's training you won't be able to see there are more than three ways to frame any context. CydeWays, I like you don't get me wrong. We go about claiming that we're not saving lives and then we invest our entire existence on this earth towards things that aren't fun? We're going further than not saving lives bro, we're wasting lives.
  - artsyca 6y ago
    And what's worse, you wouldn't consider a dress up job to save your career, nor does it strike you odd that there are no dress up jobs to be had. By now you still haven't noticed that casual culture is a poor substitute for no fun and you're stuck treating your job like a job, so what exactly is the upside?
- artsyca 6y ago
  let's get this straight -- You're doing the thing you love most in all the world, surrounded by people who feel the same way. You've gotten every perk known to man from ping pong to free booze. You're getting paid handsomely, more than any other humans on the planet. You've created a buffer zone between yourself and the client that could withstand a rocket blast from a scud missile And you are allowed to wear whatever adolescent threads you choose up to and including socks, sandals cargo shorts and a spiderman T shirt .. Yet you're not having fun and you still call it a job? CydeWays honestly what more could anyone wish for? Isn't it enough that you've bucked every professional convention? Aren't you satisfied with the greatest free lunch in the history of human enterprise? Could it be that all these enticements are what's actually robbing you of the fun you so certainly deserve? Who knows maybe I've read one too many Aesop's fables.
  - n4r9 6y ago
    I think your list applies to a select few software engineers in Silicon Valley. > You're doing the thing you love most in all the world, surrounded by people who feel the same way. The thing I love most is understanding ideas and solving cool problems. Would have stayed in academia if the jobs,job security and money were there. There is plenty of problem solving but it's not an everyday occurrence. > You've gotten every perk known to man from ping pong to free booze. Might get some free booze at company events. We have ping pong at our yearly BBQ. > You're getting paid handsomely, more than any other humans on the planet. Definitely not true. > You've created a buffer zone between yourself and the client that could withstand a rocket blast from a scud missile I'm emailing or on the phone with clients on a weekly basis. > And you are allowed to wear whatever adolescent threads you choose up to and including socks, sandals cargo shorts and a spiderman T shirt .. This one's true.
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    - artsyca 6y ago
      The greatest professional sin is undervaluing the other person

If it ain't fun why do it?

mihaaly 6y ago

Because it is important? Well, actually doing important things is kind of fun, so never mind.

artsyca 6y ago
That's the spirit mihaaly. Now follow this line of reasoning a little deeper like good little knowledge worker my dearest colleague.

CydeWeys 6y ago

For many of us SWEs on here, it's literally our job ...

artsyca 6y ago
It's only a job if you treat it like one. But then again you most likely refuse to dress up for it, amiright? And you'll throw every prevarication in the book at me as to why dressing up for work isn't necessary. And I'll tell you that's employee mentality talking. And you'll say but I'm an engineer. And I'll say dressing up is fun, for children and adults alike And you'll say fun has no place at a job. And try as you might despite all of your engineer's training you won't be able to see there are more than three ways to frame any context. CydeWays, I like you don't get me wrong. We go about claiming that we're not saving lives and then we invest our entire existence on this earth towards things that aren't fun? We're going further than not saving lives bro, we're wasting lives.
- artsyca 6y ago
  And what's worse, you wouldn't consider a dress up job to save your career, nor does it strike you odd that there are no dress up jobs to be had. By now you still haven't noticed that casual culture is a poor substitute for no fun and you're stuck treating your job like a job, so what exactly is the upside?
artsyca 6y ago
let's get this straight -- You're doing the thing you love most in all the world, surrounded by people who feel the same way. You've gotten every perk known to man from ping pong to free booze. You're getting paid handsomely, more than any other humans on the planet. You've created a buffer zone between yourself and the client that could withstand a rocket blast from a scud missile And you are allowed to wear whatever adolescent threads you choose up to and including socks, sandals cargo shorts and a spiderman T shirt .. Yet you're not having fun and you still call it a job? CydeWays honestly what more could anyone wish for? Isn't it enough that you've bucked every professional convention? Aren't you satisfied with the greatest free lunch in the history of human enterprise? Could it be that all these enticements are what's actually robbing you of the fun you so certainly deserve? Who knows maybe I've read one too many Aesop's fables.
- n4r9 6y ago
  I think your list applies to a select few software engineers in Silicon Valley. > You're doing the thing you love most in all the world, surrounded by people who feel the same way. The thing I love most is understanding ideas and solving cool problems. Would have stayed in academia if the jobs,job security and money were there. There is plenty of problem solving but it's not an everyday occurrence. > You've gotten every perk known to man from ping pong to free booze. Might get some free booze at company events. We have ping pong at our yearly BBQ. > You're getting paid handsomely, more than any other humans on the planet. Definitely not true. > You've created a buffer zone between yourself and the client that could withstand a rocket blast from a scud missile I'm emailing or on the phone with clients on a weekly basis. > And you are allowed to wear whatever adolescent threads you choose up to and including socks, sandals cargo shorts and a spiderman T shirt .. This one's true.
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  - artsyca 6y ago
    The greatest professional sin is undervaluing the other person