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> Nah. Last thing I want is to have to fill out my credit card information in every app and worry about what's going to happen with it. Apple Pay and IAP work p

> Nah. Last thing I want is to have to fill out my credit card information in every app and worry about what's going to happen with it. Apple Pay and IAP work perfectly adequately from the consumer standpoint. I think the thing Astropad is missing is that the App Store is not there to just facilitate payment processing. As the name App Store describes, it is a store. Store's often have markup's of 30% or greater. That's how they make money. I guess you could argue that they have a monopoly of app stores on iOS but I'm not sure that matters. > Right, so Apple is not supposed to give me free access to nice features so I can continue to pay money to someone else. Right. I don't even think that is the argument. Their argument is that Apple should had tried to buy them because they came to market first. I think third-party developers should always be wary of what Apple is planning and have a plan to compete should Apple or whoever decide to expand their core functionality that mimics what they are doing.

jsjohnst 6y ago
> Store's often have markup's of 30% or greater As someone who’s worked on products sold via Amazon, Walmart, Target, Apple Retail, Microsoft Retail, Sharper Image, and many more, all I can say is developers have it great with Apple. 1) if you think Apple’s review process is arbitrary and constrictive, try getting into retail! 2) if you think 30% cut is bad, try getting into retail! Want to sell for a lower price on your website? Nope! 3) want to set the price for your product? With Amazon you might not even get that, they can arbitrarily decide to raise or lower your price with little to no warning. 4) think it’s bad that you can get yanked out of the App Store suddenly, try retail! Same happens there, and worse. Please don’t dismiss this as a “what about” reply, I’m trying to instead show this is a much bigger societal problem than just one vendor and one marketplace. Sure, we need to start somewhere, but is Apple really the one that should be targeted first?

jsjohnst 6y ago

> Store's often have markup's of 30% or greater As someone who’s worked on products sold via Amazon, Walmart, Target, Apple Retail, Microsoft Retail, Sharper Image, and many more, all I can say is developers have it great with Apple. 1) if you think Apple’s review process is arbitrary and constrictive, try getting into retail! 2) if you think 30% cut is bad, try getting into retail! Want to sell for a lower price on your website? Nope! 3) want to set the price for your product? With Amazon you might not even get that, they can arbitrarily decide to raise or lower your price with little to no warning. 4) think it’s bad that you can get yanked out of the App Store suddenly, try retail! Same happens there, and worse. Please don’t dismiss this as a “what about” reply, I’m trying to instead show this is a much bigger societal problem than just one vendor and one marketplace. Sure, we need to start somewhere, but is Apple really the one that should be targeted first?