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> [alternate payment mechanisms] ...fill out my credit card information in every app Why is that the only alternative? How about app1 \

> [alternate payment mechanisms] ...fill out my credit card information in every app Why is that the only alternative? How about app1 \ / payment service1 app2 - OS payment service framework - payment service2 app3 / \ payment service3 This is how OSes should and used to work. To define the interfaces and provide frameworks for services to integrate.

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rimliu 6y ago
And ditch the Apple tax, right? So Apple will end up will all of the headaches of the integration with none of the benefits. And if some "payment service" stops working, guess whose fault it would be.
- lifty 6y ago
  What about the fact that we buy their 1k phones or 3k laptops? Does that not count for anything? Apparently not, it's not enough anymore. Large companies like apple want a piece of every pie. If this trend continues you will soon be able to enlist your whole life into the Apple or Amazon ecosystem, they will provide everything you need, and will just take all your productive output. Don't worry, you will have entertainment, food, accommodation... everything you need. And if you don't like it, you can switch feudal lords of course. It's a free market after all.
rahkiin 6y ago
In a way this is how it works. This OS Payment service framework is the App Store. You have an account there and you have your creditcard (payment server1) or PayPal (service2) or iban (service3) there. They take 30% for both handling these payments (paying PayPal, MasterCard, etc), and storing your app. And also showing your app in the catalogus of the store.
jbverschoor 6y ago
But it works exactly like that. I get the feeling people are bashing Apple don't have any idea how things work. Also, nobody is ever complaining about Google's 30%. As a consumer/business, I get the added benefit of 1 party and tax ruling. And it's easy to cancel my subscriptions As a developer, I get the benefit of not having to deal with all the different taxlaws. I don't have to deal with fraud. And the checkout process is way easier, so higher conversion.

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rimliu 6y ago

And ditch the Apple tax, right? So Apple will end up will all of the headaches of the integration with none of the benefits. And if some "payment service" stops working, guess whose fault it would be.

lifty 6y ago
What about the fact that we buy their 1k phones or 3k laptops? Does that not count for anything? Apparently not, it's not enough anymore. Large companies like apple want a piece of every pie. If this trend continues you will soon be able to enlist your whole life into the Apple or Amazon ecosystem, they will provide everything you need, and will just take all your productive output. Don't worry, you will have entertainment, food, accommodation... everything you need. And if you don't like it, you can switch feudal lords of course. It's a free market after all.

rahkiin 6y ago

In a way this is how it works. This OS Payment service framework is the App Store. You have an account there and you have your creditcard (payment server1) or PayPal (service2) or iban (service3) there. They take 30% for both handling these payments (paying PayPal, MasterCard, etc), and storing your app. And also showing your app in the catalogus of the store.

jbverschoor 6y ago

But it works exactly like that. I get the feeling people are bashing Apple don't have any idea how things work. Also, nobody is ever complaining about Google's 30%. As a consumer/business, I get the added benefit of 1 party and tax ruling. And it's easy to cancel my subscriptions As a developer, I get the benefit of not having to deal with all the different taxlaws. I don't have to deal with fraud. And the checkout process is way easier, so higher conversion.