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> How well "Whites" as a group are doing says nothing about "poor whites" and how they're doing. How so? "Poor whites" are just a subset of "whites". The paren
by neilparikh 6y ago
> How well "Whites" as a group are doing says nothing about "poor whites" and how they're doing.
How so? "Poor whites" are just a subset of "whites". The parent comment claimed that "poor whites" are worse off. This is making 2 claims: that they are worse off because they are poor, and that they are worse off because they are white. I'm not denying that they're worse off because they're poor, that should be fairly obvious to anyone that knows anything about the American university admissions system. But the parent added the extra claim about race, and I'm refuting that for being inaccurate.
> and anyway you shouldn't pre-judge things about people based on race... it's literally racial prejudice.
Where in my comment did I make any racially prejudiced or racially divisive statements? The parent comment was the one that decided to divide the group of poor further by race.
Anyway, it's Harvard (and the other Ivy Leagues) that are pre-judging people by race. Is me discussing that fact somehow also "prejudging by race" and "racial prejudice"? I don't follow what you're trying to imply.
Edit: Looks like I confused the parent comment with the grandparent comment. The parent comment was about the "left" not caring about poor white kids. I think most of what I'm saying still applies, just replace "worse off" with "not cared about by the left". Ie. The left doesn't care about the poor too much, but they're definitely neutral towards whites, if not biased in favour.
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- torstenvl 6y ago> How so? "Poor whites" are just a subset of "whites". "A fallacy of division is the error in logic that occurs when one reasons that something that is true for a whole must also be true of all or some of its parts." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_division https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_division