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Why is title bar there? I was hoping they'd push the tabs up into the title bar like Chrome and give us more screen space.

by pldpld 16y ago

jamii 16y ago
On my little netbook this is a deal-breaker. It wastes about 1/10 of the screen.
- deleted 16y ago
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- bilban 16y ago
  I assume you mean you'd rather the title bar wasn't there - for your net book. Which is a fair comment. I guess you could run the browser in full screen mode. Though full screen doesn't suit everyone.
gcr 16y ago
Maximize. It puts the tabs in the title bar when you maximize.
- niels_olson 16y ago
  this should be shipped on be default. edit: "this" appears to be as yet undefined. Unless ... can someone point me to whatever "maximize" is? edit: FF4 does not behave as you describe on my WinXP box at work.
  - mbrubeck 16y ago
    Press the little button in the titlebar that makes any window fill the screen. Note that tabs will appear in the titlebar when maximized on Windows only, for Firefox 4, and only if you have the menu bar hidden. (It's hidden by default in Windows Vista and 7.) Tabs in the titlebar are planned for Mac and Linux too, but weren't ready for this release.
    - niels_olson 16y ago
      For whatever reason, the voters seem to think I didn't try that before commenting. FF4 does not behave as described on my WinXP box at work.
      - baq 16y ago
        they probably don't have xp anymore. works fine on 7.
      - gcr 16y ago
        Hm, don't know what to say. Perhaps disable the menu bar. That did it for me. Here's what firefox 4 looks like running on windows XP: http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/460/20110322144851800x600sc.png http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/460/20110322144851800x600...
- niels_olson 16y ago
  Where is this "maximize"? Is it an add-on? A button I'm not seeing? edit: why the downvotes? I'm at work on my rickety WinXP corporate box, and FF4 definitely does not behave as described above. (Do really think I didn't try that?!)
  - sid0 16y ago
    Maximize as in what your OS allows you to do. edit: Oh, Windows XP. You'll have to disable the menu bar to get it to work there, I think.
    - niels_olson 16y ago
      check. That works, thanks!
  - adnam 16y ago
    F11
ootachi 16y ago
To make it easier to grab the window and move it. You can maximize the window, and since you can't move it anymore once it's maximized, the tabs will move to the right of the Firefox button. This doesn't work on Linux, due to window manager issues. Perhaps Firefox can do something like Chrome does as a workaround, although Chrome's workaround is awfully heavyweight (it basically reimplements all the functions of the WM).
51Cards 16y ago
I like having a title bar, I park collapsed Trillian chat windows up there and I HATE that Chrome doesn't give me space to do that. It's a UI deal breaker for Chrome for me.
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- bilban 16y ago
  It's indeed odd. The 'title' is the meta element, that is incredibly useful! It deserves attention. Not to be lost. That's not to say tat I don't like slim tool bars. I also prefer uniformity across the desktop and this feels like a deviation. Much in the way that a tabbing interface was alien when opera introduced it. I like tabs, but I'd rather my window manager work with them. But that's just me. I'm running minefield, and I've noticed some issues in Gmail, with dragging selected text - I think the browser assumes I'm dragging and dropping. Firefox still doesn't squeeze the tab size to fit the window width, which irritates the hell out of me. Having said that there doesn't seem to be a radical UI overhaul - which is a shame.
crux_ 16y ago
Not sure if they work on FF4 (yet), but there are add-ons for that, of course. I don't mind losing the title bar, since I've long been in the habit of alt+dragging to move windows anyway. (This is a linux-ism, but well worth installing 3rd party software on OSX/Windows for -- particularly for alt + middle/right-button resizing: no need to screw around landing your mouse on a corner of the window.)
mkr-hn 16y ago
View->Toolbars->Menu Bar That gives you an Opera-style widget on the left side for menu functions and moves tabs to the top. edit: And Alt will bring the normal menu into view if you need something not on the widget.
Pyrodogg 16y ago
Maximize the window AND disable the menu bar. If you don't disable the menu bar, you don't see the Firefox menu or the tabs in the title bar space.

Why is title bar there? I was hoping they'd push the tabs up into the title bar like Chrome and give us more screen space.

by pldpld 16y ago

Why is title bar there? I was hoping they'd push the tabs up into the title bar like Chrome and give us more screen space.

jamii 16y ago

On my little netbook this is a deal-breaker. It wastes about 1/10 of the screen.

deleted 16y ago
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bilban 16y ago
I assume you mean you'd rather the title bar wasn't there - for your net book. Which is a fair comment. I guess you could run the browser in full screen mode. Though full screen doesn't suit everyone.

gcr 16y ago

Maximize. It puts the tabs in the title bar when you maximize.

niels_olson 16y ago
this should be shipped on be default. edit: "this" appears to be as yet undefined. Unless ... can someone point me to whatever "maximize" is? edit: FF4 does not behave as you describe on my WinXP box at work.
- mbrubeck 16y ago
  Press the little button in the titlebar that makes any window fill the screen. Note that tabs will appear in the titlebar when maximized on Windows only, for Firefox 4, and only if you have the menu bar hidden. (It's hidden by default in Windows Vista and 7.) Tabs in the titlebar are planned for Mac and Linux too, but weren't ready for this release.
  - niels_olson 16y ago
    For whatever reason, the voters seem to think I didn't try that before commenting. FF4 does not behave as described on my WinXP box at work.
    - baq 16y ago
      they probably don't have xp anymore. works fine on 7.
    - gcr 16y ago
      Hm, don't know what to say. Perhaps disable the menu bar. That did it for me. Here's what firefox 4 looks like running on windows XP: http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/460/20110322144851800x600sc.png http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/460/20110322144851800x600...
niels_olson 16y ago
Where is this "maximize"? Is it an add-on? A button I'm not seeing? edit: why the downvotes? I'm at work on my rickety WinXP corporate box, and FF4 definitely does not behave as described above. (Do really think I didn't try that?!)
- sid0 16y ago
  Maximize as in what your OS allows you to do. edit: Oh, Windows XP. You'll have to disable the menu bar to get it to work there, I think.
  - niels_olson 16y ago
    check. That works, thanks!
- adnam 16y ago
  F11

ootachi 16y ago

To make it easier to grab the window and move it. You can maximize the window, and since you can't move it anymore once it's maximized, the tabs will move to the right of the Firefox button. This doesn't work on Linux, due to window manager issues. Perhaps Firefox can do something like Chrome does as a workaround, although Chrome's workaround is awfully heavyweight (it basically reimplements all the functions of the WM).

51Cards 16y ago

I like having a title bar, I park collapsed Trillian chat windows up there and I HATE that Chrome doesn't give me space to do that. It's a UI deal breaker for Chrome for me.

deleted 16y ago
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bilban 16y ago
It's indeed odd. The 'title' is the meta element, that is incredibly useful! It deserves attention. Not to be lost. That's not to say tat I don't like slim tool bars. I also prefer uniformity across the desktop and this feels like a deviation. Much in the way that a tabbing interface was alien when opera introduced it. I like tabs, but I'd rather my window manager work with them. But that's just me. I'm running minefield, and I've noticed some issues in Gmail, with dragging selected text - I think the browser assumes I'm dragging and dropping. Firefox still doesn't squeeze the tab size to fit the window width, which irritates the hell out of me. Having said that there doesn't seem to be a radical UI overhaul - which is a shame.

crux_ 16y ago

Not sure if they work on FF4 (yet), but there are add-ons for that, of course. I don't mind losing the title bar, since I've long been in the habit of alt+dragging to move windows anyway. (This is a linux-ism, but well worth installing 3rd party software on OSX/Windows for -- particularly for alt + middle/right-button resizing: no need to screw around landing your mouse on a corner of the window.)

mkr-hn 16y ago

View->Toolbars->Menu Bar That gives you an Opera-style widget on the left side for menu functions and moves tabs to the top. edit: And Alt will bring the normal menu into view if you need something not on the widget.

Pyrodogg 16y ago

Maximize the window AND disable the menu bar. If you don't disable the menu bar, you don't see the Firefox menu or the tabs in the title bar space.