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What google play does not have is a ToS that requires you to use the Google Play billing and forbids you from talking about other ways to pay for the app. (Goog

What google play does not have is a ToS that requires you to use the Google Play billing and forbids you from talking about other ways to pay for the app. (Google play does have a lot of restrictions around this, but it's not quite as draconian as apple's. what basecamp is doing here would be allowed on the play store)

scarface74 6y ago
So Google Play should be bringing in a lot more money if Apple’s policy is hurting developers. Obviously, it’s not.
- harpratap 6y ago
  You are treating App store as a product while in reality it's a platform like Amazon. There are two sides to it - merchants (or developers) and users. Both sides should be treated fairly and right now Apple is leaning more on consumer side while screwing the developers.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    That argument is really going to fly with a juror. Apple is being too consumer friendly.
    - harpratap 6y ago
      Why not? Merchants do that all time to Amazon. How are developers different in this case?
      - scarface74 6y ago
        How has that worked out?
        harpratap 6y ago
        Just because injustice is happening doesn't mean you keep letting it happen "just because it's happened in the past too". It's not a reason to not speak up against it. Speaking up against it and making everyone aware is the first step in seeking justice. Just keeping mum about it wouldn't change the status quo.
        scarface74 6y ago
        So it’s “injustice” that Apple is being “too consumed friendly”?
        harpratap 6y ago
        Not sure how many times I have to repeat the same things, you keep circling back to same rhetoric again and again. Apple's app store is not a B2C business, it's B2B2C business. They are supposed to make sure the developers get a fair deal even if means the consumers don't get the best of experience.
        scarface74 6y ago
        That’s not how “consumer protection” laws work.
        harpratap 6y ago
        Merchants have laws too, you know? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/technology/amazon-bezos-india-antitrust.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/technology/amazon-bezos-i... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/01/29/business/corporate-business/antitrust-watchdog-launches-probe-rakutens-free-delivery-plan/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/01/29/business/corpor... Both these companies are not even monopolies in the countries they got sued in.
        scarface74 6y ago

scarface74 6y ago

So Google Play should be bringing in a lot more money if Apple’s policy is hurting developers. Obviously, it’s not.

harpratap 6y ago
You are treating App store as a product while in reality it's a platform like Amazon. There are two sides to it - merchants (or developers) and users. Both sides should be treated fairly and right now Apple is leaning more on consumer side while screwing the developers.
- scarface74 6y ago
  That argument is really going to fly with a juror. Apple is being too consumer friendly.
  - harpratap 6y ago
    Why not? Merchants do that all time to Amazon. How are developers different in this case?
    - scarface74 6y ago
      How has that worked out?
      - harpratap 6y ago
        Just because injustice is happening doesn't mean you keep letting it happen "just because it's happened in the past too". It's not a reason to not speak up against it. Speaking up against it and making everyone aware is the first step in seeking justice. Just keeping mum about it wouldn't change the status quo.
        scarface74 6y ago
        So it’s “injustice” that Apple is being “too consumed friendly”?
        harpratap 6y ago
        Not sure how many times I have to repeat the same things, you keep circling back to same rhetoric again and again. Apple's app store is not a B2C business, it's B2B2C business. They are supposed to make sure the developers get a fair deal even if means the consumers don't get the best of experience.
        scarface74 6y ago
        That’s not how “consumer protection” laws work.
        harpratap 6y ago
        Merchants have laws too, you know? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/technology/amazon-bezos-india-antitrust.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/technology/amazon-bezos-i... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/01/29/business/corporate-business/antitrust-watchdog-launches-probe-rakutens-free-delivery-plan/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/01/29/business/corpor... Both these companies are not even monopolies in the countries they got sued in.
        scarface74 6y ago