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right. its not like our second amendment even allows us to protect ourselves from incompetent/evil cops. it only allows for you to shoot other civilians and pre

by volkk 6y ago

right. its not like our second amendment even allows us to protect ourselves from incompetent/evil cops. it only allows for you to shoot other civilians and prey you're in the right. if you even dare try to defend yourself against some plainclothed cops, you'll simply be killed in a heartbeat, or now deal with courts for ages and most likely be charged with something.

User23 6y ago
This is categorically false. People can and have prevailed with a self-defense defense against killing police officers who failed to identify themselves as police. Also, Indiana for example explicitly legalizes home defense against "public servants"[1]. [1] https://codes.findlaw.com/in/title-35-criminal-law-and-procedure/in-code-sect-35-41-3-2.html https://codes.findlaw.com/in/title-35-criminal-law-and-proce...
kansface 6y ago
2016 Man shoots three cops during no-knock raid and is found not guilty because they did not identify themselves as cops. https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/texas-man-found-not-guilty-for-shooting-three-cops-during-noknock-raid-ehraX84ZEUi9Q0___1p4XA https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/texas-man-f...
ALittleLight 6y ago
You're allowed to defend yourself, with arms and lethal violence, against unlawful police. There's a Supreme Court case about it called John Bad Elk versus US wherein police were trying to arrest John Bad Elk for shooting guns on his own land, which was legal, and when the police made to draw on him he shot them, killing at least one officer, and was found to have acted within the law. A more recent and more famous example is the rapper Tupac who witnessed police beating up a guy for no reason. Tupac grabbed a gun and told them to stop, and when the police shot at him, he shot back wounding one, and wasn't found to have committed any crime. Randy Weaver shot and killed a federal agent and was exonerated at trial. These are just examples from memory. I'm sure if you looked you'd find many more. It may not be wise to shoot out with the police, and you'd better be certain you're right, but you're absolutely permitted to use your guns on the police and kill them in some circumstances.

by volkk 6y ago

User23 6y ago

This is categorically false. People can and have prevailed with a self-defense defense against killing police officers who failed to identify themselves as police. Also, Indiana for example explicitly legalizes home defense against "public servants"[1]. [1] https://codes.findlaw.com/in/title-35-criminal-law-and-procedure/in-code-sect-35-41-3-2.html https://codes.findlaw.com/in/title-35-criminal-law-and-proce...

kansface 6y ago

2016 Man shoots three cops during no-knock raid and is found not guilty because they did not identify themselves as cops. https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/texas-man-found-not-guilty-for-shooting-three-cops-during-noknock-raid-ehraX84ZEUi9Q0___1p4XA https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/texas-man-f...

ALittleLight 6y ago

You're allowed to defend yourself, with arms and lethal violence, against unlawful police. There's a Supreme Court case about it called John Bad Elk versus US wherein police were trying to arrest John Bad Elk for shooting guns on his own land, which was legal, and when the police made to draw on him he shot them, killing at least one officer, and was found to have acted within the law. A more recent and more famous example is the rapper Tupac who witnessed police beating up a guy for no reason. Tupac grabbed a gun and told them to stop, and when the police shot at him, he shot back wounding one, and wasn't found to have committed any crime. Randy Weaver shot and killed a federal agent and was exonerated at trial. These are just examples from memory. I'm sure if you looked you'd find many more. It may not be wise to shoot out with the police, and you'd better be certain you're right, but you're absolutely permitted to use your guns on the police and kill them in some circumstances.