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Sub menus are really hard to do right on a mobile device. Mobile is important at least since Bootstrap 3, when Bootstrap became "mobile first" (e.g. you define

Sub menus are really hard to do right on a mobile device. Mobile is important at least since Bootstrap 3, when Bootstrap became "mobile first" (e.g. you define breakpoints with the smallest screen in mind by default, adding exceptions for wider screens) After all, Bootstrap is, like the name suggests, a "bootstrap" for your own project, and if you think the accesibility problems that come with nested dropdowns are worth it, you're totally free to implement that, and even create a GitHub project with your CSS clases. There's no reason your solution wouldn't be merged if you provide a truly novel approach to all the other failed approaches.

Eduard 6y ago
> Sub menus are really hard to do right on a mobile device No, they are not. Bootstrap is too opinionated here by not supporting nested menus. There are plenty of use cases for them, a navigable sitemap or your common application toolbar for example. And accessibility is also a non-issue, see W3C's / WCAG's recommendations: https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#menu https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#menu Speaking of accessibility: I'm surprised that Bootstrap only cares little about this important topic, especially considering implementing it on websites is required by law in many countries.
- hombre_fatal 6y ago
  I mean, submenus are difficult. Even single-element tooltips are complicated enough to warrant a dedicated library that Bootstrap uses: https://popper.js.org/ https://popper.js.org/ Nested menus are no easier to make generic. Or they can easily be too opinionated for the Bootstrap team's tastes. Also I don't think dropping something from your API makes you more opinionated. Their solution would be opinionated by definition if they had one. Nothing stops you from building your own or anybody from building a library that solves the problem. If you think it's easy, then you sound like the right person to take on the challenge.
  - Eduard 6y ago
    Citing mdo, https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/6342#issuecomment-11594010 https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/6342#issuecomment-115... : "We haven't seen anyone using submenus in meaningful ways and the code necessary to make them work well is just too much overhead. Submenus just don't have much of a place on the web right now, especially the mobile web." This is very opinionated.
- gjvc 6y ago
  > No, they are not. Bootstrap is too opinionated here by not supporting nested menus Agree 10x

Eduard 6y ago

> Sub menus are really hard to do right on a mobile device No, they are not. Bootstrap is too opinionated here by not supporting nested menus. There are plenty of use cases for them, a navigable sitemap or your common application toolbar for example. And accessibility is also a non-issue, see W3C's / WCAG's recommendations: https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#menu https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#menu Speaking of accessibility: I'm surprised that Bootstrap only cares little about this important topic, especially considering implementing it on websites is required by law in many countries.

hombre_fatal 6y ago
I mean, submenus are difficult. Even single-element tooltips are complicated enough to warrant a dedicated library that Bootstrap uses: https://popper.js.org/ https://popper.js.org/ Nested menus are no easier to make generic. Or they can easily be too opinionated for the Bootstrap team's tastes. Also I don't think dropping something from your API makes you more opinionated. Their solution would be opinionated by definition if they had one. Nothing stops you from building your own or anybody from building a library that solves the problem. If you think it's easy, then you sound like the right person to take on the challenge.
- Eduard 6y ago
  Citing mdo, https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/6342#issuecomment-11594010 https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/6342#issuecomment-115... : "We haven't seen anyone using submenus in meaningful ways and the code necessary to make them work well is just too much overhead. Submenus just don't have much of a place on the web right now, especially the mobile web." This is very opinionated.
gjvc 6y ago
> No, they are not. Bootstrap is too opinionated here by not supporting nested menus Agree 10x