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I still don't understand why people like Apple products so much. I was forced to use a MacBook at my last job for 2 years because the CEO was a Steve Jobs fan.

I still don't understand why people like Apple products so much. I was forced to use a MacBook at my last job for 2 years because the CEO was a Steve Jobs fan. It's a terrible machine. If I had to summarize Apple with just one word, it would be "restrictive". It's like you need a license to do anything, run any program, write any program. It's like you don't even own the damn machine, it owns you. I understand why some developers may want to stay away from Windows but Apple is not the answer. Linux distros are really quite good these days. I highly recommend the new version of Kubuntu v20. The defaults are kind of ugly (no idea why they would do that to themselves) but you can customize the theme and it can look amazing. Ubuntu is not bad but Kubuntu was an eye-opener for me in terms of usability and customizability.

threeseed 6y ago
You're just talking nonsense. I can do a "brew install" or "brew cask install" and have thousands of apps installed. I write apps in Scala, Rust, Golang and C++ with zero issues. At no point have I needed a license for anything.
- cryptica 6y ago
  To publish an app so that real Apple users can run it on their machines, you need to buy a $100 developer license. This applies for both desktop and mobile apps. For a recent open source project, I had to take down the OSX version of our pre-built client because it would not let users run the app without giving them a warning and force them to change their settings. It's extremely restrictive. Especially to a developer. Even after 2 years, I could not get over having to push the Cmd button with the side of my thumb. I'm at least 2x faster and more productive on a Dell or HP machine with Ubuntu or Kubuntu installed. The workspaces feature and customizability on Kubuntu is mind-blowing.
GoToRO 6y ago
Same experience here with an iPhone. Nice hardware (the product part) but when it comes to software and features it’s like a wasteland. For example all day events will be alerted at 9:00 am. No way to change that. What?! What is this, communism again? https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5449962 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5449962
azangru 6y ago
> Ubuntu is not bad but Kubuntu was an eye-opener for me in terms of usability and customizability. KDE Neon here. Love it!
monkin 6y ago
> I still don't understand why people like Apple products so much. That’s very simple. Most of users aren’t professionals and want platform that works out-of-the-box. They don’t customize. They don’t change anything. They don’t want or know how to side-load an app... they are just normal users which are majority of Apple clients. :) Why so many people have a problem with understanding that professional users (developers, designers, etc) aren’t most important, or even better, the only one using Apple hardware? BTW. And with those users in mind I would love to have more walled gardens everywhere. As they don’t care about their tech-savvy part of life, approach like this can minimize their lost from stupid actions.
- emilsedgh 6y ago
  I don't have much of a Mac experience but Linux distro's nowadays are far, far more "just working" than windows, even and specially on their default setups. At least that's my personal experience.

threeseed 6y ago

You're just talking nonsense. I can do a "brew install" or "brew cask install" and have thousands of apps installed. I write apps in Scala, Rust, Golang and C++ with zero issues. At no point have I needed a license for anything.

cryptica 6y ago
To publish an app so that real Apple users can run it on their machines, you need to buy a $100 developer license. This applies for both desktop and mobile apps. For a recent open source project, I had to take down the OSX version of our pre-built client because it would not let users run the app without giving them a warning and force them to change their settings. It's extremely restrictive. Especially to a developer. Even after 2 years, I could not get over having to push the Cmd button with the side of my thumb. I'm at least 2x faster and more productive on a Dell or HP machine with Ubuntu or Kubuntu installed. The workspaces feature and customizability on Kubuntu is mind-blowing.

GoToRO 6y ago

Same experience here with an iPhone. Nice hardware (the product part) but when it comes to software and features it’s like a wasteland. For example all day events will be alerted at 9:00 am. No way to change that. What?! What is this, communism again? https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5449962 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5449962

azangru 6y ago

> Ubuntu is not bad but Kubuntu was an eye-opener for me in terms of usability and customizability. KDE Neon here. Love it!

monkin 6y ago

> I still don't understand why people like Apple products so much. That’s very simple. Most of users aren’t professionals and want platform that works out-of-the-box. They don’t customize. They don’t change anything. They don’t want or know how to side-load an app... they are just normal users which are majority of Apple clients. :) Why so many people have a problem with understanding that professional users (developers, designers, etc) aren’t most important, or even better, the only one using Apple hardware? BTW. And with those users in mind I would love to have more walled gardens everywhere. As they don’t care about their tech-savvy part of life, approach like this can minimize their lost from stupid actions.

emilsedgh 6y ago
I don't have much of a Mac experience but Linux distro's nowadays are far, far more "just working" than windows, even and specially on their default setups. At least that's my personal experience.