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Thanks for that. Also I need to find a way to find better therapists! :-) EDIT: Or maybe just realize that I get more depressed (and anxious) when I drink mas

by ci5er 6y ago

Thanks for that. Also I need to find a way to find better therapists! :-) EDIT: Or maybe just realize that I get more depressed (and anxious) when I drink massive amounts of depressants, and, you know, stop? :-)

ashtonkem 6y ago
Finding a good therapist is both hard, and a very trial & error process.
- ci5er 6y ago
  The founders of NLP used to joke that there are many paths to mental health, but none so lucrative as Freudian psychotherapy. I tend to try to seek out CBT people, but I found that a lot of them started out as classicists themselves, and then we find our way back into being "non-interventionists". My mental model now is that the cycle of life goes something like this: Born -> WTF is Going on Here? -> Death Maybe that's cynical, but it helps me believe that I'm not the only one who is fucked up between the ears .
vorpalhex 6y ago
For me, and this is entirely anecdotal, I was typically overindulging in alcohol when I was upset about something and wanted to get my mind off of it. Which is great in theory except of course you end up stewing instead, but stopping the drinking didn't actually fix the root problem either, just a particular expression of it. Ultimately I ended up adjusting my environment by both accepting it was OK to end some relationships with some angry people in my life (not angry at me, but angry generally) and adjusting how I approach work.
- ci5er 6y ago
  Fair enough. That makes sense. And Thank you for that. In my case, I had a couple of back-to-back life-events that I just couldn't process/accept, (and frankly using alcohol to deal with the first probably lead to the second), but, then, hey! I was an addict! It probably took me 15~20 years to stop using that as my go-to avoidance technique (even though I knew how unhealthy/unuseful it was, I didn't really have another. Shame on me)

by ci5er 6y ago

ashtonkem 6y ago

Finding a good therapist is both hard, and a very trial & error process.

ci5er 6y ago
The founders of NLP used to joke that there are many paths to mental health, but none so lucrative as Freudian psychotherapy. I tend to try to seek out CBT people, but I found that a lot of them started out as classicists themselves, and then we find our way back into being "non-interventionists". My mental model now is that the cycle of life goes something like this: Born -> WTF is Going on Here? -> Death Maybe that's cynical, but it helps me believe that I'm not the only one who is fucked up between the ears .

vorpalhex 6y ago

For me, and this is entirely anecdotal, I was typically overindulging in alcohol when I was upset about something and wanted to get my mind off of it. Which is great in theory except of course you end up stewing instead, but stopping the drinking didn't actually fix the root problem either, just a particular expression of it. Ultimately I ended up adjusting my environment by both accepting it was OK to end some relationships with some angry people in my life (not angry at me, but angry generally) and adjusting how I approach work.

ci5er 6y ago
Fair enough. That makes sense. And Thank you for that. In my case, I had a couple of back-to-back life-events that I just couldn't process/accept, (and frankly using alcohol to deal with the first probably lead to the second), but, then, hey! I was an addict! It probably took me 15~20 years to stop using that as my go-to avoidance technique (even though I knew how unhealthy/unuseful it was, I didn't really have another. Shame on me)