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> The CPU is less and less relevant for gaming I wouldn't say that. We had a couple of very cpu heavy game releases recently, and with new console generations
by onli 6y ago
> The CPU is less and less relevant for gaming
I wouldn't say that. We had a couple of very cpu heavy game releases recently, and with new console generations that usually makes a jump.
And you can get a bigger performance jump in games - with Intel.
> The reviews I've seen put it out ahead consistently but only by a 1-2fp
Right, rounds down to 0%.
> Disproportionate but to me it's still a great value processor.
No, by definition it's not a great value anymore if you pay that much more for that small gain, if you have equally fast alternatives after a minimal overclock.
You could have sold the Wraith cooler :) But that's a valid argument, for some the cooler inclusion or non-inclusion does not matter.
AMD won't do that change without a reason. They probably feel they are in the position for that now. They boosted the stock cooler importance for Zen 1 (that thing was great) gaining goodwill, then made it worse, now start to remove it completely. The infinite circle of corporate attention and customer focus in action.
- Nursie 6y ago>And you can get a bigger performance jump in games - with Intel. Which intel product is more capable than a 3700X at a lower price than a 3800X?
- onli 6y agoIn games the 10600K[0]. And the 10400(F) is equally fast[1]. Outside of games the 3800X wins against those two, though the 10600K could keep up with it a bit better if we would look at its overclocked results. [0]: https://www.pc-kombo.com/de/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids%5B%5D=Intel+Core+i5-10600K&ids%5B%5D=AMD+Ryzen+7+3800X https://www.pc-kombo.com/de/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids%... [1]: https://www.pc-kombo.com/de/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids[]=Intel+Core+i5-10400F&ids[]=AMD+Ryzen+7+3800X https://www.pc-kombo.com/de/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids[...
- Nursie 6y ago> In games the 10600K[0]. And the 10400(F) 2 fewer cores, that's a far worse deal.
- onli 6y agoDoesn't matter, if it's faster.
- Nursie 6y agoThat's highly debatable. It matters to me, I do a lot of parallel software builds. Two more cores makes a difference. If you only game, that's one thing. I don't.
- onli 6y agoNo, that's not debatable. I was specifically talking about gaming, and mentioned in all my comments specifically what performance category I'm talking about when making performance claims.
- Nursie 6y agoActually if you go back to the top of the thread there are no such claims, just that the chips are not good value. I'd argue that going forward the intel chips are going to hold their own less well in games too, with a lower core count, especially as the core count in consoles goes up.