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Personally I’m happy to pay 30% higher prices for better integration, comfort and security. But at the same time this shouldn’t be forced on everyone. There’s t

Personally I’m happy to pay 30% higher prices for better integration, comfort and security. But at the same time this shouldn’t be forced on everyone. There’s tons of people that prefer worse experience to save money.

coronadisaster 6y ago
How is having a choice a worst experience? Can you even use Firefox on iOS? I don't know how Apple gets away with so much... maybe because of all the politicians that they are legally allowed to buy?
- jkinudsjknds 6y ago
  I'm in favor of Apple losing control. That being said, it's probable that if the walled garden disappeared, you would see more companies choosing to ONLY host apps on the non-apple venues to avoid their burdensome rules. Some of those rules are pro consumer. You could easily see the average customer experience getting worse because things they want are now only available with a lot of crap that Apple would previously have forbidden. The choice isn't guaranteed.
FirefoxIsSlow 6y ago
I'm not sure if any of those are really a result of the 30% charge. Or any of those are even real. The worst experience I've had on Android is a free guitar tuner had ads, I uninstalled and moved on.
gerbal 6y ago
Isn't the issue that Apple doesn't charge the same 30% surcharge to their own business units? Apple controls the entire ecosystem and can use it's control to force anti-competive terms on its competition.
zorbash 6y ago
I'm a MacOS newbie and my experience with the App Store made me think that they've given up completely. It's incredibly slow, lacks a way to do things programmatically like Debian's `dist-upgrade` or the ability to automatically download and install security updates. Afaik most developers who work on a mac prefer either homebrew or downloading .dmg images.
fomine3 6y ago
IIRC Apple forces developer to offer same or lower price on other platform/web even they take 30%.

coronadisaster 6y ago

How is having a choice a worst experience? Can you even use Firefox on iOS? I don't know how Apple gets away with so much... maybe because of all the politicians that they are legally allowed to buy?

jkinudsjknds 6y ago
I'm in favor of Apple losing control. That being said, it's probable that if the walled garden disappeared, you would see more companies choosing to ONLY host apps on the non-apple venues to avoid their burdensome rules. Some of those rules are pro consumer. You could easily see the average customer experience getting worse because things they want are now only available with a lot of crap that Apple would previously have forbidden. The choice isn't guaranteed.

FirefoxIsSlow 6y ago

I'm not sure if any of those are really a result of the 30% charge. Or any of those are even real. The worst experience I've had on Android is a free guitar tuner had ads, I uninstalled and moved on.

gerbal 6y ago

Isn't the issue that Apple doesn't charge the same 30% surcharge to their own business units? Apple controls the entire ecosystem and can use it's control to force anti-competive terms on its competition.

zorbash 6y ago

I'm a MacOS newbie and my experience with the App Store made me think that they've given up completely. It's incredibly slow, lacks a way to do things programmatically like Debian's `dist-upgrade` or the ability to automatically download and install security updates. Afaik most developers who work on a mac prefer either homebrew or downloading .dmg images.

fomine3 6y ago

IIRC Apple forces developer to offer same or lower price on other platform/web even they take 30%.