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Your claim is false. When Apple made the decision to not allow Adobe Flash on iOS, there was no App Store. Apple did not allow third-party apps, and writing HTM

Your claim is false. When Apple made the decision to not allow Adobe Flash on iOS, there was no App Store. Apple did not allow third-party apps, and writing HTML5 was the only way for any third party to run anything on iOS. That changed later, and clearly Apple enjoys the 30% now, but the grandparent comment is 100% accurate, and your first three sentences are 100% false. The fourth statement is accurate, though!

Dotnaught 6y ago
The iOS App Store preceded the Flash ban. "Apple introduced the App Store on July 10, 2008 with 500 apps" https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/07/app-store-turns-10/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/07/app-store-turns-10/ Apple's Flash restrictions were published in draft form in April 2010. http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2010/04/20/on-adobe-flash-cs5-and-iphone-applications/ http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2010/04/20/on-adobe-flash-c... And justified by Steve Jobs that same month: https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
- kyralis 6y ago
  This is cherry-picking articles to create a false timeline. The iPhone never supported Flash. There was never a "Flash ban" so much as there was never Flash.
  - kmeisthax 6y ago
    I think that by "Flash ban" Dotnaught means "Apple's ban on third party development tools" which was specifically intended to ban the iOS packager tool Adobe had started shipping.
jfkebwjsbx 6y ago
You talk as if "web apps" and "Apps" in general (in a phone) were a thing back then. They were not. Apple was selling a browser in a phone which was a new concept for normal customers. Blackberries were a thing back then and the iPhone killed them because of this.
- toast0 6y ago
  All of the earlier smartphones had applications. I had a real player app and a better video recorder for my Symbian phone; blackberry, windows (CE), and palm phones all had apps too. Mobile Safari was certainly a lot better than browsers on the other phones though. And a lack of carrier garbage and interference on updates was also nice.

Dotnaught 6y ago

The iOS App Store preceded the Flash ban. "Apple introduced the App Store on July 10, 2008 with 500 apps" https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/07/app-store-turns-10/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/07/app-store-turns-10/ Apple's Flash restrictions were published in draft form in April 2010. http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2010/04/20/on-adobe-flash-cs5-and-iphone-applications/ http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2010/04/20/on-adobe-flash-c... And justified by Steve Jobs that same month: https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

kyralis 6y ago
This is cherry-picking articles to create a false timeline. The iPhone never supported Flash. There was never a "Flash ban" so much as there was never Flash.
- kmeisthax 6y ago
  I think that by "Flash ban" Dotnaught means "Apple's ban on third party development tools" which was specifically intended to ban the iOS packager tool Adobe had started shipping.

jfkebwjsbx 6y ago

You talk as if "web apps" and "Apps" in general (in a phone) were a thing back then. They were not. Apple was selling a browser in a phone which was a new concept for normal customers. Blackberries were a thing back then and the iPhone killed them because of this.

toast0 6y ago
All of the earlier smartphones had applications. I had a real player app and a better video recorder for my Symbian phone; blackberry, windows (CE), and palm phones all had apps too. Mobile Safari was certainly a lot better than browsers on the other phones though. And a lack of carrier garbage and interference on updates was also nice.