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you've just proven his point, he was expressing a good point that currently there's a lot of data points showing that when you express a not "100% agree" opinio

you've just proven his point, he was expressing a good point that currently there's a lot of data points showing that when you express a not "100% agree" opinion with these kind of movements, extremists of said movement will harass you online, saying that things in "if you're not with us, the good guys, then you're with the bad guys". Like you did by saying that for you it means is in total opposition. Why can't he just be "I don't have an opinion" and just expressing his view on simply just "renaming vs quitting"?

komali2 6y ago
If they didn't have an opinion, why are they leaving GitHub over the change? I am not arguing in favor of harassment - my argument is, either it's a change that you acknowledge is to be more inclusive to POC developers, and you reject that that is acceptable and thus leave GitHub, or you don't believe it's important / don't care / it's just a branch name, in which case you wouldn't leave GitHub. The action of leaving GitHub over this change makes a statement. Saying "I'm not making a statement" while doing so changes nothing about that.
- allan_s 6y ago
  I don't see him stating he's personally planning on leaving github ? he does advice to do so yes to someone who try hard to have a behaivour back on a plateform that said plateform is rejecting. I have no opinion on alcohol consumption, but I sure will tell my friend "if you're planning on adding soda to your whisky, just because you don't like alcohol, you may just don't drink at all" while i'm waiting for my beer to come. also you're saying > the idea of making black developers feel more welcome. I don't think a Nigerian care about ? Or you're talking about american-black ?
- friedxenon 6y ago
  You're framing it like the only two options are you either agree with them and are happy to comply or it must not matter to you. Maybe he objects to the idea that an angry mob gets to set convention by shouting loudly and threatening to destroy your career if you don't comply with their demands.

komali2 6y ago

If they didn't have an opinion, why are they leaving GitHub over the change? I am not arguing in favor of harassment - my argument is, either it's a change that you acknowledge is to be more inclusive to POC developers, and you reject that that is acceptable and thus leave GitHub, or you don't believe it's important / don't care / it's just a branch name, in which case you wouldn't leave GitHub. The action of leaving GitHub over this change makes a statement. Saying "I'm not making a statement" while doing so changes nothing about that.

allan_s 6y ago
I don't see him stating he's personally planning on leaving github ? he does advice to do so yes to someone who try hard to have a behaivour back on a plateform that said plateform is rejecting. I have no opinion on alcohol consumption, but I sure will tell my friend "if you're planning on adding soda to your whisky, just because you don't like alcohol, you may just don't drink at all" while i'm waiting for my beer to come. also you're saying > the idea of making black developers feel more welcome. I don't think a Nigerian care about ? Or you're talking about american-black ?
friedxenon 6y ago
You're framing it like the only two options are you either agree with them and are happy to comply or it must not matter to you. Maybe he objects to the idea that an angry mob gets to set convention by shouting loudly and threatening to destroy your career if you don't comply with their demands.