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>Wikileaks intent was not to document war crimes, it was seemingly to reveal all state secrets. That is your opinion but its not the truth. Wikileaks own mani
by fit2rule 6y ago
>Wikileaks intent was not to document war crimes, it was seemingly to reveal all state secrets.
That is your opinion but its not the truth. Wikileaks own manifesto states:
WikiLeaks is a multi-national media organization and associated library. It was founded by its publisher Julian Assange in 2006.
WikiLeaks specializes in the analysis and publication of large datasets of censored or otherwise restricted official materials involving war, spying and corruption. It has so far published more than 10 million documents and associated analyses.
War, spying and corruption.
And, that is precisely what it has done: exposed war, spying and corruption.
But those aren't the only things governments want kept secret.
- slg 6y agoThe comment I was responding to said their intent was to reveal war crimes. Spying and corruption are not war crimes. Corruption is an incredibly vague term that Wikileaks can and has used to publish almost whatever they want. It is also worth noting that revealing war crimes, spying, and corruption is possible with a more targeted approach rather than Wikileaks approach of publishing large batches of semi-related documents. This shotgun approach seems to be done in service of overall transparency rather than revealing the specific wrongdoings that Wikileaks claims it is against. Hence my comment that they seem to care more about revealing secrets in general than specifically war crimes.
- fit2rule 6y agoShow me anything that Wikileaks released that did not, in some way, involve either a) a war crime, b) corruption, or c) spying. Wikileaks is not a judiciary body. It never had any intention other than to provide an ill-informed public (remember, the Iraq war was predicated on a lie) with enough data to make its own conclusion. Your authoritarian stance that only the government can decide its own secrets is fundamentally corrupt to the idea of a free, open society.
- slg 6y agohttps://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/?q=lunch https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/?q=lunch Also you are reading a lot into my comments. I have never said anything approaching "only the government can decide its own secrets". My belief is simply that secrets are not inherently bad. Revealing a state secret should only be done when the person publishing that information can point to a public good that will result from that information being revealed. How does knowing lunch orders from random DNC employees help reveal war crimes, corruption, or spying?
- fit2rule 6y agoThe corruption of the DNC is a very real thing. >How does knowing lunch orders from random DNC employees help reveal war crimes, corruption, or spying? Right, corruption never happens during lunchtime.