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Yeah, back in the days Flash was fun for creating simple interactive animations. I yet haven't found a good alternative. HTML+SVG+CSS+JS+Canvas+WegGL+... can d

Yeah, back in the days Flash was fun for creating simple interactive animations. I yet haven't found a good alternative. HTML+SVG+CSS+JS+Canvas+WegGL+... can do all the things, but there's no good and simple to use editor. For pure animations I recently found Synfig, which to me has a steeper learning curve and misses the interactivity Flash provided. In a way similar to the missing replacement of Delphi in the Web - simple tools for creating quite acceptable results quickly. All the tools I found till today either produces only crap, which falls apart quickly or one has to make it a real project with proper coding and everything.

narag 6y ago
Do you remember IntraBuilder? https://www.drdobbs.com/borlands-intrabuilder-10/184415559 https://www.drdobbs.com/borlands-intrabuilder-10/184415559 It was a flop, but they did try.
- johannes1234321 6y ago
  The nice thing about Delphi was that one could start easily with a toy project and then turn it into a quite high quality product. With solutions like IntraBuilder one is tied into a tight framework, which integrates only in limited ways to the Web. The closest thing I know is Oracle Apex, which has its flaws, lock-in and costs $$$$ but some results I saw are quite nice and as a user hard to identify as being created by such a tool.
roblabla 6y ago
I mean, Adobe Animate (the new name for Adobe Flash) still exists, and can target HTML/JS/Canvas/WebGL. It still supports ActionScript 3.0, so the same platform that could be used to create animations and interactive games should still be usable.
- johannes1234321 6y ago
  "should be" or "is"? Serious question. It's a while since I tried last and results were less than encouraging. But maybe it improved. (And then 20$/month is cheap for professional usage, but notable for fun or student projects)
  - jjoonathan 6y ago
    It used to cost $500 or something, but that isn't stopping people from framing Flash as a champion of adolescent creativity.
    - johannes1234321 6y ago
      Back then it was easy to find a license key somewhere. These days it takes more effort to bypass registration requirements etc. Thus folks in their adolescence got used to the tool and then got stuck and some later paid ... I don't want to know how many Flash games were made on copies of questionable legality ;)

narag 6y ago

Do you remember IntraBuilder? https://www.drdobbs.com/borlands-intrabuilder-10/184415559 https://www.drdobbs.com/borlands-intrabuilder-10/184415559 It was a flop, but they did try.

johannes1234321 6y ago
The nice thing about Delphi was that one could start easily with a toy project and then turn it into a quite high quality product. With solutions like IntraBuilder one is tied into a tight framework, which integrates only in limited ways to the Web. The closest thing I know is Oracle Apex, which has its flaws, lock-in and costs $$$$ but some results I saw are quite nice and as a user hard to identify as being created by such a tool.

roblabla 6y ago

I mean, Adobe Animate (the new name for Adobe Flash) still exists, and can target HTML/JS/Canvas/WebGL. It still supports ActionScript 3.0, so the same platform that could be used to create animations and interactive games should still be usable.

johannes1234321 6y ago
"should be" or "is"? Serious question. It's a while since I tried last and results were less than encouraging. But maybe it improved. (And then 20$/month is cheap for professional usage, but notable for fun or student projects)
- jjoonathan 6y ago
  It used to cost $500 or something, but that isn't stopping people from framing Flash as a champion of adolescent creativity.
  - johannes1234321 6y ago
    Back then it was easy to find a license key somewhere. These days it takes more effort to bypass registration requirements etc. Thus folks in their adolescence got used to the tool and then got stuck and some later paid ... I don't want to know how many Flash games were made on copies of questionable legality ;)