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So you don't like the questions the term "concentration camp" makes you ask about the indefinite detention of foreign nationals for misdemeanor offenses? Maybe

by gerbal 6y ago

So you don't like the questions the term "concentration camp" makes you ask about the indefinite detention of foreign nationals for misdemeanor offenses? Maybe the term isn't the problem and the policy you are trying to defend is

TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
I'm fine with the questions on immigration. It's a political issue that has been unaddressed for decades, and needs to be faced soon. I'm not fine with hyperbole. It causes unnecessary arguments and deadens people to extreme viewpoints. Reality is bad enough to cause political change as long as attention is brought to it.
- gerbal 6y ago
  How is "ICE is running concentration camps" hyperbole if all parts of the sentence are literally true? If ICE could be trusted to care for those in its care [1] or respect the legal rights of immigrants [2] then, maybe it would be unfair. How many children need to die in custody before "concentration camp" stops being hyperbolic? [1] https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2019/12/19/ice-asylum-under-trump-exclusive-look-us-immigration-detention/4381404002/ https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2019/12/19/ice... [2] https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-15/asylum-officers-revolt-against-trump-policies-they-say-are-immoral-illegal https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-15/asylum-off...
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  - toasterlovin 6y ago
    This was clearly addressed in the comment you originally responded to: > According to your definition, a concentration camp is an "internment centre for political prisoners and members of national or minority groups who are confined for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment.." > People of certain minority groups aren't being rounded up. Illegal immigrants are being rounded up, regardless of race or nationality.

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So you don't like the questions the term "concentration camp" makes you ask about the indefinite detention of foreign nationals for misdemeanor offenses? Maybe

by gerbal 6y ago

TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
I'm fine with the questions on immigration. It's a political issue that has been unaddressed for decades, and needs to be faced soon. I'm not fine with hyperbole. It causes unnecessary arguments and deadens people to extreme viewpoints. Reality is bad enough to cause political change as long as attention is brought to it.
- gerbal 6y ago
  How is "ICE is running concentration camps" hyperbole if all parts of the sentence are literally true? If ICE could be trusted to care for those in its care [1] or respect the legal rights of immigrants [2] then, maybe it would be unfair. How many children need to die in custody before "concentration camp" stops being hyperbolic? [1] https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2019/12/19/ice-asylum-under-trump-exclusive-look-us-immigration-detention/4381404002/ https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2019/12/19/ice... [2] https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-15/asylum-officers-revolt-against-trump-policies-they-say-are-immoral-illegal https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-15/asylum-off...
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  - toasterlovin 6y ago
    This was clearly addressed in the comment you originally responded to: > According to your definition, a concentration camp is an "internment centre for political prisoners and members of national or minority groups who are confined for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment.." > People of certain minority groups aren't being rounded up. Illegal immigrants are being rounded up, regardless of race or nationality.