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Does MuseScore have feature parity with Finale wrt notation? Essentially: Speedy Entry or its equivalent (keypad-entry ftw) An escape hatch for the user to pa

Does MuseScore have feature parity with Finale wrt notation? Essentially: Speedy Entry or its equivalent (keypad-entry ftw) An escape hatch for the user to paint their way out of all western notational edge cases (splayed stems, chord clusters, crazy slurs, etc.) If it doesn't have the first then you lose all the copyists (gotta go fast). If you don't have the second then you don't get the contractors engraving Henle editions (because control over the score isn't fine-grained enough). Edit: I initially wrote "reliable escape hatch" but removed reliable-- at least when I was using it, many of Finale's workaround tools were buggy. Stuff like dragging a shape and the shape drifts away from the pointer the further you drag it from the origin. But you could power through the bugs and eventually get exactly what you want and print it out.

TylerE 6y ago
Just use Dorico and have support for all of that stuff in actual notation... https://steinberg.help/dorico/v2/en/dorico/topics/notation_reference/notation_reference_stems_altered_unisons_split_stems_c.html https://steinberg.help/dorico/v2/en/dorico/topics/notation_r... https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v3/en/dorico/topics/notation_reference/notation_reference_slurs_segments_c.html?hl=slur https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v3/en/dorico/topics/notati...
- jancsika 6y ago
  What about the escape hatch for things not listed there? For example, I didn't see clusters, or [one of probably 20 other things I could list one of which almost certainly requires an escape hatch]
  - TylerE 6y ago
    Clusters are easily created as a custom notehead. This gives you full control over exact design and placement. As for the rest, well, without knowing what your items are, I can't really respond - but Dorico is AMAZINGLY capable. Irrational time signatures? Any crazy/arbitrary/arbitrarily nested tuplets you care to dream up? True open/unmearsured time signatures? Arbitrary microtonal systems? Multiple simultaneous time signatures? All out of the box. But of course it supports the ultimate escape hatch... you can import SVG or export the entire score as SVG.
    - mkl 6y ago
      > you can import SVG That sounded too amazing to be true, and doesn't seem to be. Typo? https://doricosoftware.com/import_and_export.html https://doricosoftware.com/import_and_export.html (imports MusicXML and MIDI)
      - TylerE 6y ago
        No, it's totally true: https://steinberg.help/dorico/v1/en/dorico/topics/engrave_mode/engrave_mode_graphics_frames_r.html https://steinberg.help/dorico/v1/en/dorico/topics/engrave_mo... Here's a quick sample I just whipped up with the IETF logo. https://i.imgur.com/KON2dOm.png https://i.imgur.com/KON2dOm.png Note how it's imported and used as true vector data - even when zoomed way in everything stays crisp - nothing is rasterized.
        mkl 6y ago
        Oh, okay, it imports SVGs just as graphics elements? I was jumping to the conclusion it meant interpreting as notes that become an editable part of the score.
        TylerE 6y ago
        There are custom editors for just about everything (note heads, playing techniques, lines...$
    - jancsika 6y ago
      ossia measures? Also-- are the imported graphics attached to the score or can they be attached to notes? Also-- cross-staff stems for grand staff?

TylerE 6y ago

Just use Dorico and have support for all of that stuff in actual notation... https://steinberg.help/dorico/v2/en/dorico/topics/notation_reference/notation_reference_stems_altered_unisons_split_stems_c.html https://steinberg.help/dorico/v2/en/dorico/topics/notation_r... https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v3/en/dorico/topics/notation_reference/notation_reference_slurs_segments_c.html?hl=slur https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v3/en/dorico/topics/notati...

jancsika 6y ago
What about the escape hatch for things not listed there? For example, I didn't see clusters, or [one of probably 20 other things I could list one of which almost certainly requires an escape hatch]
- TylerE 6y ago
  Clusters are easily created as a custom notehead. This gives you full control over exact design and placement. As for the rest, well, without knowing what your items are, I can't really respond - but Dorico is AMAZINGLY capable. Irrational time signatures? Any crazy/arbitrary/arbitrarily nested tuplets you care to dream up? True open/unmearsured time signatures? Arbitrary microtonal systems? Multiple simultaneous time signatures? All out of the box. But of course it supports the ultimate escape hatch... you can import SVG or export the entire score as SVG.
  - mkl 6y ago
    > you can import SVG That sounded too amazing to be true, and doesn't seem to be. Typo? https://doricosoftware.com/import_and_export.html https://doricosoftware.com/import_and_export.html (imports MusicXML and MIDI)
    - TylerE 6y ago
      No, it's totally true: https://steinberg.help/dorico/v1/en/dorico/topics/engrave_mode/engrave_mode_graphics_frames_r.html https://steinberg.help/dorico/v1/en/dorico/topics/engrave_mo... Here's a quick sample I just whipped up with the IETF logo. https://i.imgur.com/KON2dOm.png https://i.imgur.com/KON2dOm.png Note how it's imported and used as true vector data - even when zoomed way in everything stays crisp - nothing is rasterized.
      - mkl 6y ago
        Oh, okay, it imports SVGs just as graphics elements? I was jumping to the conclusion it meant interpreting as notes that become an editable part of the score.
        TylerE 6y ago
        There are custom editors for just about everything (note heads, playing techniques, lines...$
  - jancsika 6y ago
    ossia measures? Also-- are the imported graphics attached to the score or can they be attached to notes? Also-- cross-staff stems for grand staff?