Not sure if you think that term comes from there, but it doesn't. http://books.google.com/books?id=H-GfO0jkBLsC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&ots=hpDfKWMHCu&sig=Rz0HRMfpd3f

Not sure if you think that term comes from there, but it doesn't. http://books.google.com/books?id=H-GfO0jkBLsC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&ots=hpDfKWMHCu&sig=Rz0HRMfpd3fwW9gWTlJ9BznK9Cc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result http://books.google.com/books?id=H-GfO0jkBLsC&pg=PA38&#3... God damn, but google books links are ghastly. At any rate, the saying goes way, way before that.