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With most of my customers the conversation goes something like: - Customer: We must still implement that cookie popup before launch! - Me: No. You don't have
by berkes 6y ago
With most of my customers the conversation goes something like:
- Customer: We must still implement that cookie popup before launch!
- Me: No. You don't have to. If we just disable SomePerformanceMetrics and GoogleAnalytics, we're done: we don't need a pupop.
- Me: who is using the performance metrics ATM? And who is acting on GA? How do you use them? Would this (shows three really neat Log-analyzers as alternative) suffice?
- Customer: We don't use them yet. But we might want to in future. And we then we might need all that data. So we want to start collecting it now.
Point is: you don't need Google Analytics, you don't need any of those 20+ tracking cookies if you actually look at it.
But there's a lot a FOMO, combined with "but this is how we have always done it, so shut up".
There are some rare cases where GA, new-relic, tagmanager etc are really nessecary and none of the privacy-friendly (ie no-cookie-popup required) alternatives cut it. But those are rare.
I daresay that a vast majority of tracking cookies is just there because the developers/business is too lazy to take a serious look at the problem.
Which is why I truly welcome more legislation that turns "collecting vast amounts of data" from "free" into a real and looming liability.
- johannes1234321 6y agoYou should add this question to your set of questions: "Do you really want to report all your users up to Google, so that Google sees how successful your product is and can build a competing product?" And yeah, doesn't work for all sorts of things, but as a site operator I would be careful in giving away that information out of self interest already ...
- esperent 6y agoYou don't even have to fully disable GA. You just need to disable individual level tracking, as far as I know.
- smhg 6y agoWith the anonymizeIp parameter? https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/field-reference#anonymizeIp https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection...
- berkes 6y agoI am no lawyer, but I was told this still is "third party tracking cookies" which is what the GDPR is about.
- dorgo 6y ago>Log-analyzers as alternative You mean... no opt-in popup is required for logfiles? Isn't it also PII? IP + browser + timestamp + referrer? It's almost enough to identify unique visitors.