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Lets say they could get away with it. What would be a reasonable time span for this? Maybe 5 years? I have a gtx970 in my pc which is 5 years old by now. Whi

Lets say they could get away with it. What would be a reasonable time span for this? Maybe 5 years? I have a gtx970 in my pc which is 5 years old by now. While the card is fine by itself, it is too slow and thus getting replaced in the near future and moved into an office pc. But which data center uses 5 year old graphics cards? It is save to assume that dedicated compute card gets replaced from time to time anyway. Moores law is still too strong.

0-_-0 6y ago
> What would be a reasonable time span for this? The strong temperature depencence means this will likely look like "5 years with low fan noise and 30 years with high fan noise"
close04 6y ago
A 5-10 year old machine can still be perfectly usable. I have a 2012 laptop with a high end i7 3-series CPU, high end Quadro GPU and I would hate if any of them failed because it's not something I can easily (if at all) fix, the whole laptop would become a doorstop. An i7 6700 is already 5 years old. That's most certainly not an outdated "can throw away" CPU. Neither will a 3rd gen. Ryzen 4 years from now.
Reelin 6y ago
I'm typing this from a ~6 year old laptop (used as a desktop OFC) for example. My phone is ~5 years old (unbelievable, I know). When it fails in a few years I'll happily buy a "new" ~4 year old refurbished phone again. Regarding Moore's law, there's only so many possible shrinks left to go. Once we hit that wall the incentive to be on the latest node is significantly reduced. Combine that with associated lifetime reductions and I think larger nodes might even end up preferable in many cases.
iforgotpassword 6y ago
Don't forget preservation efforts. I know most people don't care about it but many enthusiasts like giving old systems a spin every now and then. You can still build your dream 386 from used parts off of eBay and play wing commander on a CRT. For the upcoming generation of hardware that might just be impossible then.
discodave 6y ago
AWS still has the m1 EC2 instance type on their pricing page which was first launched in... 2006. Datacenter hardware can stick around for a looooong time if the people running the applications on top don't feel like migrating to new hardware.
- ghaff 6y ago
  What makes you think that instance type is still running on the same hardware it was in 2006?
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    That they encourage folks to migrate off them and have much more limited supply of the older instance families seems to imply it.

0-_-0 6y ago

> What would be a reasonable time span for this? The strong temperature depencence means this will likely look like "5 years with low fan noise and 30 years with high fan noise"

close04 6y ago

A 5-10 year old machine can still be perfectly usable. I have a 2012 laptop with a high end i7 3-series CPU, high end Quadro GPU and I would hate if any of them failed because it's not something I can easily (if at all) fix, the whole laptop would become a doorstop. An i7 6700 is already 5 years old. That's most certainly not an outdated "can throw away" CPU. Neither will a 3rd gen. Ryzen 4 years from now.

Reelin 6y ago

I'm typing this from a ~6 year old laptop (used as a desktop OFC) for example. My phone is ~5 years old (unbelievable, I know). When it fails in a few years I'll happily buy a "new" ~4 year old refurbished phone again. Regarding Moore's law, there's only so many possible shrinks left to go. Once we hit that wall the incentive to be on the latest node is significantly reduced. Combine that with associated lifetime reductions and I think larger nodes might even end up preferable in many cases.

iforgotpassword 6y ago

Don't forget preservation efforts. I know most people don't care about it but many enthusiasts like giving old systems a spin every now and then. You can still build your dream 386 from used parts off of eBay and play wing commander on a CRT. For the upcoming generation of hardware that might just be impossible then.

discodave 6y ago

AWS still has the m1 EC2 instance type on their pricing page which was first launched in... 2006. Datacenter hardware can stick around for a looooong time if the people running the applications on top don't feel like migrating to new hardware.

ghaff 6y ago
What makes you think that instance type is still running on the same hardware it was in 2006?
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  That they encourage folks to migrate off them and have much more limited supply of the older instance families seems to imply it.