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The fact that all these stories are about the origin of euphemisms should be a strong clue about how normative homosexuality and bisexuality was in the larger s
by wahern 6y ago
The fact that all these stories are about the origin of euphemisms should be a strong clue about how normative homosexuality and bisexuality was in the larger society.
There's a lot of ground between the extremes of brutal, sadistic repression we've seen in modern times and a culture where everybody is bisexual, which is basically what this article is whispering. There's an odd, even dissonant, urge in contemporary liberal Western society to conflate "normal" with "common", even while supposedly celebrating diversity.[1]
As an side, is it just me who doesn't think it's a coincidence that in both imperial China and classical Greece (Athens in particular) where bisexuality and, specifically, male-male sexual relations were relatively more common you also see a culture of repression of women? In cultures where women are seen as dirty or unequal to men in the public sphere, it's entirely unsurprising that homosexuality might become more common. That's a testament to the power of culture--that culture can shape sexual preferences to some non-negligible degree.
Energy spent on trying to revise history to turn minorities into majorities is energy not spent on teaching people to have open minds and to be more accepting. Because minorities will never go away--some types of identities ebb and flow into and out of minority status, while others, like the color of your skin, never will--we can't fix everything by turning everybody into a majority member. Indeed, in attempting to do so we reinforce the notion that legitimacy and majoritarian status are intertwined. Which isn't to say we shouldn't teach historical facts, like the bisexual practices of imperial Chinese nobility, just that we should abstain from needlessly spinning them.
What do these sexual practices in imperial China and elsewhere tell us? That sexuality is more fluid and adaptable than we assume, and that culture can shape it. We just need to be careful how we extrapolate from those facts. Admitting that culture can shape sexuality does not imply that people like Jerry Falwell are correct in their characterization of homosexuality. Ill considered attempts at avoiding situations where a Jerry Falwell can say, "I told you so", is part of the reason liberals end up with contorted narratives. That's why we ended up, during the marriage equality debates, arguing in the Supreme Court and the court of public opinion that being gay was never a choice and always predetermined by biology. Not only did it leave many bisexuals out in the cold, but it reinforced and perpetuated many prejudices about sexuality that we'll regret for years to come.[2]
Can we just stick to the facts and stop spinning narratives? With enough facts a narrative will emerge on its own. Or it won't, because there is none. For example, the persistent practice of same sex relations would be much less interesting absent sexual taboos as most human behaviors exhibit significant diversity (including cultural meta-diversity) relative to other species. But the surest way to end up with a wrong narrative is to force it--it'll merely be a reflection of existing prejudices.
[1] Conflating "normal" with "common" is a rather conservative mentality. Since most people, even self-identifying liberals, tend to be rather conservative, I guess the attempts aren't that surprising. And making the argument that atypical case foo is actually everywhere is a provocative, common rhetorical technique, making its popularity in academia also unsurprising. (Unprovocative arguments don't usually achieve high "impact factors", even if they're unintuitive and non-mainstream.) But none of that justifies the dissonance, especially in intellectual debate.
[2] Much of the research, and particularly the reporting thereof, showing homosexuality among, e.g., penguins and bonobos always seemed to me dangerous flirtations with the appeal to nature fallacy; the same fallacy at the heart of conservative arguments against same-sex marriage.
- goto11 6y agoIs it a specific US obsession whether homosexuality is "a choice" or not? I wonder why it is even relevant?
- djaque 6y agoWRT the comment on whether being gay is a choice: I am gay and I spent a solid decade of my life hating myself for it. I am talking about hating myself to the point of considering suicide. When I was younger I tried to force myself to become straight before I just ignored that part of me until I began accepting myself. If I could choose not to be gay, then I wouldn't be gay. I understand the point you're making about culture's influence on sexuality, but my life is not some sort of political narrative like you seem to be suggesting. This is the experience of most gay guys I know.
- RunningDroid 6y agoI'm unqualified to determine whether or not sexuality is a choice so please do not interpret this comment as making any claims one way or another. That said, your comment implies that it is not possible for someone to hate themselves for decisions they've made and it implies that if sexuality is a choice it would be simple to change. As far as I understand sexuality is a core part of most people's identity and so, hypothetically, changing one's sexuality would be a long process of teaching the brain to treat sexuality differently. (Which would never pass an ethics board, so we may never know.)
- djaque 6y agoIt sounds like you are saying that some people choose to be gay when they are younger and then let it become so much a part of themselves that they can not change it later in life I was ten or eleven when I first noticed that I was attracted to my male friends. I had no idea what "gay" was, but I knew that I didn't want to be it and I hid it. I felt so much shame over my attraction that I dated women, tried to force myself to be "normal", and was generally in denial for basically the next decade. I was in my twenties when I finally started to be OK with who I am. I am also not stereotypically gay and if you met me, you'd probably never guess that I have a boyfriend. Most of the gay guys I know are like me in that regard. The reason people still associate gay people with stereotypes is that when you have been taught that gay people look and act a certain way, you'll never register that people like me are gay. My point is that I never built an identity around my big secret. I never made a choice and then wanted to back out of it. I just started to be attracted to men instead of women and I was taught to hate myself for it. This is something that has been echoed to me by effectively all of my friends.