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Where I lived the police did nothing about the riots while they trapped protestors then threw chemical weapons at them...

throw7373 6y ago
Look at Arab Spring, Kiev... 700 cases is very very low number in this situation. It could easily go to 100k deaths.
- TeaDrunk 6y ago
  700 cases of police brutality is indeed less than 100k deaths caused by authoritarian dictatorship. As a democratic country we’re trying to avoid it with peaceful organization and protest, but our law enforcement keeps violating our constitutional rights.
  - throw7373 6y ago
    Ok, look how France or Greece deals with riots. Water canoons, tear gas, rubber bullets, internet shutdown, checkpoints on every city block... 700 cases is very low number. edit: my answers for posts bellow I used countries with nation wide riots in recent internet age. US is not Norway! America is full of radicals and happy trigger rednecks. If anything France has special anti riot units, trained to use non lethal force. US has militarized police, SWAT teams and national guards. If you expect police to disperse crowd with zero violence, while bombarded with bricks and molotov coctails, you are out of your mind.
    - TeaDrunk 6y ago
      Yeah that’s all police brutality. I’m glad that in America our law enforcement hasn’t dove to the level of shutting off our internet, but they’ve definitely used water canons, rubber bullets, and tear gas on peaceful citizens executing their constitutional rights. I’m glad that we as a people find that even our relatively low recorded cases internationally of over 700 filmed videos of police brutality nationwide within the span of 3 weeks is totally and utterly unacceptable to such a peaceful country as ours. I hope we can further reduce this number over time!
    - Judgmentality 6y ago
      You're cherry-picking examples of how it's worse and ignoring examples of how it's better. Why not compare to Norway, Canada, or New Zealand? Also it's not like the same regulatory body came up with these numbers and said "this is an objective metric on the quantity of police brutality in these countries!" You just feel like 700 is low and other countries are worse, when there could be many more examples we don't know about in all of the countries!
- deathgrips 6y ago
  You're comparing protesting to open warfare.
  - throw7373 6y ago
    100k is still within "riots" scale given the size of US. But if someone complains about police brutality in this case, they have zero experience, probably never left their city or read a book.
    - TeaDrunk 6y ago
      You may not be aware of this but in the education system of the United States, which is mandatory for all of our children, we are taught that the history of America is the culture of fighting against authoritarian regimes no matter their form. While the truth is complicated(in fact we’ve helped set up authoritarian regimes), it means that Americans generally view the protests of any authoritarian moves to be a patriotic duty. If you’re not American I don’t expect you to necessarily understand our culture, but where we are from it’s generally unacceptable for the police to treat citizens this way.
      - lioeters 6y ago
        Having lived in the U.S. for a couple decades, I can confirm that a fundametal aspect of American history, culture, and education is about standing up for civil and individual rights. This has been true since the founding of the country, that numerous movements and protests were necessary for social progress. Americans are taught this from an early age, that we must fight for our rights. It's also true that authoritarianism runs deep in American culture. Its military and police force have been complicit in shameful crimes against humanity around the world and within the country. The challenge is that this situation (and the corruption that enables it) has been systematicaly organized and developed over (at least) the past century, and is part of the reason for its wealth and privilege. Clearly, the overclass is not willing to give up its power, and will resort to the same old strategy of oppression and manipulation. As sad as it is that protests against police brutality are met with even more brutality, it is a patriotic duty of Americans to right the wrongs, to express anger with the systemic issue of racism and violence against peaceful citizens, and to demand change. As an American who grew up with the ideal of "America the beautiful", my hope is that the protests don't stop there. The illness runs all the way to the top, and the whole world is waiting for the U.S. to grow up and actually behave according to the principles that it claims.

throw7373 6y ago

Look at Arab Spring, Kiev... 700 cases is very very low number in this situation. It could easily go to 100k deaths.

TeaDrunk 6y ago
700 cases of police brutality is indeed less than 100k deaths caused by authoritarian dictatorship. As a democratic country we’re trying to avoid it with peaceful organization and protest, but our law enforcement keeps violating our constitutional rights.
- throw7373 6y ago
  Ok, look how France or Greece deals with riots. Water canoons, tear gas, rubber bullets, internet shutdown, checkpoints on every city block... 700 cases is very low number. edit: my answers for posts bellow I used countries with nation wide riots in recent internet age. US is not Norway! America is full of radicals and happy trigger rednecks. If anything France has special anti riot units, trained to use non lethal force. US has militarized police, SWAT teams and national guards. If you expect police to disperse crowd with zero violence, while bombarded with bricks and molotov coctails, you are out of your mind.
  - TeaDrunk 6y ago
    Yeah that’s all police brutality. I’m glad that in America our law enforcement hasn’t dove to the level of shutting off our internet, but they’ve definitely used water canons, rubber bullets, and tear gas on peaceful citizens executing their constitutional rights. I’m glad that we as a people find that even our relatively low recorded cases internationally of over 700 filmed videos of police brutality nationwide within the span of 3 weeks is totally and utterly unacceptable to such a peaceful country as ours. I hope we can further reduce this number over time!
  - Judgmentality 6y ago
    You're cherry-picking examples of how it's worse and ignoring examples of how it's better. Why not compare to Norway, Canada, or New Zealand? Also it's not like the same regulatory body came up with these numbers and said "this is an objective metric on the quantity of police brutality in these countries!" You just feel like 700 is low and other countries are worse, when there could be many more examples we don't know about in all of the countries!
deathgrips 6y ago
You're comparing protesting to open warfare.
- throw7373 6y ago
  100k is still within "riots" scale given the size of US. But if someone complains about police brutality in this case, they have zero experience, probably never left their city or read a book.
  - TeaDrunk 6y ago
    You may not be aware of this but in the education system of the United States, which is mandatory for all of our children, we are taught that the history of America is the culture of fighting against authoritarian regimes no matter their form. While the truth is complicated(in fact we’ve helped set up authoritarian regimes), it means that Americans generally view the protests of any authoritarian moves to be a patriotic duty. If you’re not American I don’t expect you to necessarily understand our culture, but where we are from it’s generally unacceptable for the police to treat citizens this way.
    - lioeters 6y ago
      Having lived in the U.S. for a couple decades, I can confirm that a fundametal aspect of American history, culture, and education is about standing up for civil and individual rights. This has been true since the founding of the country, that numerous movements and protests were necessary for social progress. Americans are taught this from an early age, that we must fight for our rights. It's also true that authoritarianism runs deep in American culture. Its military and police force have been complicit in shameful crimes against humanity around the world and within the country. The challenge is that this situation (and the corruption that enables it) has been systematicaly organized and developed over (at least) the past century, and is part of the reason for its wealth and privilege. Clearly, the overclass is not willing to give up its power, and will resort to the same old strategy of oppression and manipulation. As sad as it is that protests against police brutality are met with even more brutality, it is a patriotic duty of Americans to right the wrongs, to express anger with the systemic issue of racism and violence against peaceful citizens, and to demand change. As an American who grew up with the ideal of "America the beautiful", my hope is that the protests don't stop there. The illness runs all the way to the top, and the whole world is waiting for the U.S. to grow up and actually behave according to the principles that it claims.